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Re: Bucknell
Disappointing for sure. Looked to me like Bucknell wanted the game alot more especially late. Didn't keep our composure. My grandsons were with me and asked walking out " what happened to the Blue Hens?". I couldn't couldn't give em a damn answer
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Very disappointing opening for the Hens. The lack of an inside presence is going to be difficult to overcome. We looked very undisciplined, especially in the second half. We obviously miss Davis, but we also really miss Ray, who I thought was very underrated. Where was Moss, is he still injured?
Regarding the women, where was Sundback, Boone, and the two top freshmen recruits, Johnson and Vance? Are they injured?
Regarding the women, where was Sundback, Boone, and the two top freshmen recruits, Johnson and Vance? Are they injured?
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Well, that was discouraging. The second half exposed several of the apparent flaws that characterize this team. On defense, they could not stop Bucknell from getting layups by driving past UD defenders and last year's version of the Blue Hens was quite good in that respect. On offense, getting a second shot occurred only rarely and the supposedly-improved outside shooting was absent (2 for 19 in the second half). Additionally, there appears to be no quality depth on the front line. If that was a snapshot of what our opponents will see, it is going to be a grim season at the Bob. Poor defense and a questionable offense is not a good formula for winning games IMHO.
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deja vu though just the first game for both teams. Really like Timko.
edit/aside- just checked the bball results around the country. It hit me- with our cupcake discussions, why didn't UD choose those pastries for a first game? huh??? there is a time for dessert
edit/aside- just checked the bball results around the country. It hit me- with our cupcake discussions, why didn't UD choose those pastries for a first game? huh??? there is a time for dessert
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Keep the faith kick butt go Hens
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Timko looked good but they started to
Figure him out in the second half and I think if others are not productive he will be less of a threat for us they will just double team him
Cavan Reiily has really declined the last two seasons…its a shame because we need him…
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No need to panic at this point
Despite the patriot tag for Bucknell, they have a veteran team (2 seniors, 3 juniors in a system they know) and would finish top half in the CAA IMO. They also just came off beating St Joes in an exhibition week prior, picked 3rd in A10. We had 6-7 guys all playing their first game for UD vs a Bucknell team returning their starting 5.
We lost our starting big 2 weeks before the season...remove Bucknell's 7fter and they have a different team as they had no other big besides a 6/7 guy. . Mid Majors dont have the luxury of depth in the post, just like our Oline for FB. Big men are a hot commodity. With that said, I understand we had a 6'10 240 C close to coming until a west coast school offered 100k in NLI. If you are complaining and not contributing to the NLI, need to take a seat as that is the reality today. Kind of like not voting and complaining. The staff needs to figure out a way to get bigger players moving into CUSA but if the NLI doesnt improve, will be an uphill battle
I heard Moss and Kogbara both had solid games against Loyola in a closed scrimmage. Kogbara was a disaster against Bucknell but feel that might be an outlier. Not sure why Moss didnt get more PT as he provided some solid D and boards in first half.
I disagree with the Reilly comment. Not a great game but had a solid soph year after a good fr year so 1 game does not make a season.
Pasha FR and Middleton, SO, not a good game. Both going against seniors guards. I liked the way we pushed the ball but also mistakes along the way.
Disappointed in Allen. pre-season pub was high on him but I wasnt sold on him being a game changer and more a solid rotation guy.
Finally, on the Ingelsby rants. His overall record is 131-117 and 63-72 in CAA. Sort of cherrypicking but throw out his first 2 years as this was pre immediate transfers and his late hire end of May, killed HS recruiting or transfers. If you back out his first 2 years, his record is 104-82 and CAA record is 52-47 with 1 CAA title. Not great but hardly worth the hot seat.
With the move to FBS and added expenses, he IMO is nowhere near the hotseat. With that said, if we see a poor CAA year followed by a poor first CUSA season, then the seat gets very warm.
Ok, back to my cave.
Despite the patriot tag for Bucknell, they have a veteran team (2 seniors, 3 juniors in a system they know) and would finish top half in the CAA IMO. They also just came off beating St Joes in an exhibition week prior, picked 3rd in A10. We had 6-7 guys all playing their first game for UD vs a Bucknell team returning their starting 5.
We lost our starting big 2 weeks before the season...remove Bucknell's 7fter and they have a different team as they had no other big besides a 6/7 guy. . Mid Majors dont have the luxury of depth in the post, just like our Oline for FB. Big men are a hot commodity. With that said, I understand we had a 6'10 240 C close to coming until a west coast school offered 100k in NLI. If you are complaining and not contributing to the NLI, need to take a seat as that is the reality today. Kind of like not voting and complaining. The staff needs to figure out a way to get bigger players moving into CUSA but if the NLI doesnt improve, will be an uphill battle
I heard Moss and Kogbara both had solid games against Loyola in a closed scrimmage. Kogbara was a disaster against Bucknell but feel that might be an outlier. Not sure why Moss didnt get more PT as he provided some solid D and boards in first half.
I disagree with the Reilly comment. Not a great game but had a solid soph year after a good fr year so 1 game does not make a season.
Pasha FR and Middleton, SO, not a good game. Both going against seniors guards. I liked the way we pushed the ball but also mistakes along the way.
Disappointed in Allen. pre-season pub was high on him but I wasnt sold on him being a game changer and more a solid rotation guy.
Finally, on the Ingelsby rants. His overall record is 131-117 and 63-72 in CAA. Sort of cherrypicking but throw out his first 2 years as this was pre immediate transfers and his late hire end of May, killed HS recruiting or transfers. If you back out his first 2 years, his record is 104-82 and CAA record is 52-47 with 1 CAA title. Not great but hardly worth the hot seat.
With the move to FBS and added expenses, he IMO is nowhere near the hotseat. With that said, if we see a poor CAA year followed by a poor first CUSA season, then the seat gets very warm.
Ok, back to my cave.
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Welcome back Dave!
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DAVE, Thanks for posting on Hoops. Really appreciate your insights and comments
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I was mega confused for a second I thought the game was tonight! LOL!!! https://www.facebook.com/DelawareMBB/po ... 7GYVs9fKFl
Hoping a win comes tomorrow
Hoping a win comes tomorrow
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Yes, I’ll add my thanks for your knowledgeable and common sense post. The sky may eventually fall but not after one game.DaveB wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:14 pm No need to panic at this point
Despite the patriot tag for Bucknell, they have a veteran team (2 seniors, 3 juniors in a system they know) and would finish top half in the CAA IMO. They also just came off beating St Joes in an exhibition week prior, picked 3rd in A10. We had 6-7 guys all playing their first game for UD vs a Bucknell team returning their starting 5.
We lost our starting big 2 weeks before the season...remove Bucknell's 7fter and they have a different team as they had no other big besides a 6/7 guy. . Mid Majors dont have the luxury of depth in the post, just like our Oline for FB. Big men are a hot commodity. With that said, I understand we had a 6'10 240 C close to coming until a west coast school offered 100k in NLI. If you are complaining and not contributing to the NLI, need to take a seat as that is the reality today. Kind of like not voting and complaining. The staff needs to figure out a way to get bigger players moving into CUSA but if the NLI doesnt improve, will be an uphill battle
I heard Moss and Kogbara both had solid games against Loyola in a closed scrimmage. Kogbara was a disaster against Bucknell but feel that might be an outlier. Not sure why Moss didnt get more PT as he provided some solid D and boards in first half.
I disagree with the Reilly comment. Not a great game but had a solid soph year after a good fr year so 1 game does not make a season.
Pasha FR and Middleton, SO, not a good game. Both going against seniors guards. I liked the way we pushed the ball but also mistakes along the way.
Disappointed in Allen. pre-season pub was high on him but I wasnt sold on him being a game changer and more a solid rotation guy.
Finally, on the Ingelsby rants. His overall record is 131-117 and 63-72 in CAA. Sort of cherrypicking but throw out his first 2 years as this was pre immediate transfers and his late hire end of May, killed HS recruiting or transfers. If you back out his first 2 years, his record is 104-82 and CAA record is 52-47 with 1 CAA title. Not great but hardly worth the hot seat.
With the move to FBS and added expenses, he IMO is nowhere near the hotseat. With that said, if we see a poor CAA year followed by a poor first CUSA season, then the seat gets very warm.
Ok, back to my cave.
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Just to be clear, MI’s all-time coaching record against Division I teams is now 121 and 118 (63 and 72 in the CAA)…he’s had 10 wins against non-Division I teams during his career. And if you want to discount his first 2 seasons, his D-I record is 97 and 79 (52 and 47 in the CAA). His best conference finish ever has been 4th, which was the same season they got hot in the CAA tournament to win his one and only conference championship. All feel like pretty pedestrian numbers to me, and if his seat isn’t hot, it should at least be luke warm.
We need to see progress this year as we get ready to transition to CUSA. That environment against Bucknell the other night was completely non-existent. I couldn’t help but to think back fondly to the Mike Brey (Men’s) and Elena (Women’s) sold out games and wonder what could have been with some real athletic leadership 20 or 25 years ago. I remain hopeful that we can once again see the Bob packed with exciting and winning basketball, but I have serious doubts MI is the coach to get us there. 9 years into the Ingelsby era and he needs to start showing real signs of progress. The time for excuses is over.
We need to see progress this year as we get ready to transition to CUSA. That environment against Bucknell the other night was completely non-existent. I couldn’t help but to think back fondly to the Mike Brey (Men’s) and Elena (Women’s) sold out games and wonder what could have been with some real athletic leadership 20 or 25 years ago. I remain hopeful that we can once again see the Bob packed with exciting and winning basketball, but I have serious doubts MI is the coach to get us there. 9 years into the Ingelsby era and he needs to start showing real signs of progress. The time for excuses is over.
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The posts are all good and insightful. Appreciate everyone's thoughts. Sky is definitely not falling after one game. I think Bucknell looks like a good team. Timko and Camden look like they could be keepers (if only for one year unfortunately). I think Pasha will settle down. While the refereeing stunk for both teams (very choppy and way too many whistles), it hurt us more. The phantom foul on Camden late in the game on the right side of the bucket when the game was tied was simply terrible. Kogbara was on the wrong end of some ticky tack calls too. Without his big body and Camden probably less aggressive while in foul trouble, Bucknell was able to drive into the lane. I am hopeful that without the foul trouble, they will be able to clog the lane better - although I do believe this will be a weak spot (along with rebounding). Reilly? I still am hopeful, but he simply should not shoot when his feet are not set. He has to be more disciplined.
As for the coach, well, to me he should be on the hot seat, although given his contract and that he was signed by the current AD, he probably isn't. I just wish I would see more growth from him. Did one coach make adjustments at halftime and the other did not? Given the fact that UD scored 27 and allowed 48 in the second half, it sure seems that way to me. Plus - he continues to epitomize the definition of insanity of doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Once again he wastes a valuable time out with 10 minutes to go after a Timko 3 that gave UD a 3 point lead. The crowd got a bit energized. The time out killed that enegry. Worse, he gives Bucknell a chance to set up a play during the time out and sure enough, they drain a three pointer right after the restart. We have seen this so many times before, yet he does not learn and keeps doing this stupid tactic.
As for the coach, well, to me he should be on the hot seat, although given his contract and that he was signed by the current AD, he probably isn't. I just wish I would see more growth from him. Did one coach make adjustments at halftime and the other did not? Given the fact that UD scored 27 and allowed 48 in the second half, it sure seems that way to me. Plus - he continues to epitomize the definition of insanity of doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Once again he wastes a valuable time out with 10 minutes to go after a Timko 3 that gave UD a 3 point lead. The crowd got a bit energized. The time out killed that enegry. Worse, he gives Bucknell a chance to set up a play during the time out and sure enough, they drain a three pointer right after the restart. We have seen this so many times before, yet he does not learn and keeps doing this stupid tactic.
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Bison played AT Kentucky yesterday. Was 100-72