Rider Wed 7pm

[DaveB]

Oh well …

With all the talk about the defense, including MI in the post game, the Hens shot 6-24 from 3. They need another shooter in the worst way. Hope Bethea fills that roll. And they got out rebounded 40-29. Which isn’t surprising. The inside game won’t be getting fixed.

Also, teams are going to catch on about Trent and continue to collapse on him when he drives like in the second half. Teams can do that when the Hens shoot so poorly from 3. He takes zero shots other than drives. When him, Ray and Lane are on the court at the same time, other teams will just jam up the lane.

Finally, the funniest line of the night was the Hens would beat Rider 9 of 10. Pretty extreme exaggeration of the difference between the two teams.

Being passive aggressive might be one of the least enduring traits of a human being. I enjoy posting here but you, pal, truly take the fun out of it.

Rider played a pretty perfect game, our defense certainly contributed to that but 50+% field, 50% 3 and close to perfect FT and it took OT to win. I stand by my comment.

[finpxz1]

No way to position it other than a bad loss, and a poor job by the coaches preparing the team. MI and his staff simply have to be better in his 8th year. Of their 4 losses, they were really only outplayed by UNCG, and probably should be 11 and 1 (10 and 2 worst-case). Super frustrating!!!

[Caribbean Hen]

Terrible shooting

Someone give Brian Magid a call

[Udforever1]

Terrible shooting

Someone give Brian Magid a call

Who the heck is that Carib?

[Cluck U]

Oh well …

With all the talk about the defense, including MI in the post game, the Hens shot 6-24 from 3. They need another shooter in the worst way. Hope Bethea fills that roll. And they got out rebounded 40-29. Which isn’t surprising. The inside game won’t be getting fixed.

Also, teams are going to catch on about Trent and continue to collapse on him when he drives like in the second half. Teams can do that when the Hens shoot so poorly from 3. He takes zero shots other than drives. When him, Ray and Lane are on the court at the same time, other teams will just jam up the lane.

Finally, the funniest line of the night was the Hens would beat Rider 9 of 10. Pretty extreme exaggeration of the difference between the two teams.

Being passive aggressive might be one of the least enduring traits of a human being. I enjoy posting here but you, pal, truly take the fun out of it.

Rider played a pretty perfect game, our defense certainly contributed to that but 50+% field, 50% 3 and close to perfect FT and it took OT to win. I stand by my comment.

Don't let a few old Bah-humbug posters take the fun out of things...too many other fun posters on this site. I, and many others, appreciate your posts.

Stop by the Spring tailgate at one of the lacrosse games. You'll meet plenty of good posters. Time and date to be determined...but Michigan might be a good one if the weather looks fine.

[Caribbean Hen]

Terrible shooting

Someone give Brian Magid a call

Who the heck is that Carib?

Thanks for asking Coach

I have so many unfocused memories on Brian Magid, but in a nutshell, he was a legendary outside shooter (before the 3) that played at Maryland in the mid-70s for Lefty Driesell, but wasn’t really athletic enough to get on the court for any serious PT. He kind of took on a pop icon status amongst ACC fans. He transferred to Georgetown and started and actually got drafted by the Pacers.

If anyone could teach these young guys how to shoot, it would be him.

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Magid

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[Hens79]

Oh well …

With all the talk about the defense, including MI in the post game, the Hens shot 6-24 from 3. They need another shooter in the worst way. Hope Bethea fills that roll. And they got out rebounded 40-29. Which isn’t surprising. The inside game won’t be getting fixed.

Also, teams are going to catch on about Trent and continue to collapse on him when he drives like in the second half. Teams can do that when the Hens shoot so poorly from 3. He takes zero shots other than drives. When him, Ray and Lane are on the court at the same time, other teams will just jam up the lane.

Finally, the funniest line of the night was the Hens would beat Rider 9 of 10. Pretty extreme exaggeration of the difference between the two teams.

Being passive aggressive might be one of the least enduring traits of a human being. I enjoy posting here but you, pal, truly take the fun out of it.

Rider played a pretty perfect game, our defense certainly contributed to that but 50+% field, 50% 3 and close to perfect FT and it took OT to win. I stand by my comment.

Sorry you feel that way DaveB. I thought the “perfect game” and “would beat them 9 out of 10 times” were pretty silly comments after the Hens just lost to a 2-8 team. I figured you made them when you were frustrated, as we all were. But then you doubled down the day after, so I guess not. But it doesn’t really matter as the damage has been done on a lot of levels after losing to a 2-8 MAAC team coming off a big win against a Big East team. A win over Princeton would go a long way to rectify the terrible Rider loss.

[Caribbean Hen]

Someone give Brian Magid a call

Who the heck is that Carib?

Thanks for asking Coach

I have so many unfocused memories on Brian Magid, but in a nutshell, he was a legendary outside shooter (before the 3) that played at Maryland in the mid-70s for Lefty Driesell, but wasn’t really athletic enough to get on the court for any serious PT. He kind of took on a pop icon status amongst ACC fans. He transferred to Georgetown and started and actually got drafted by the Pacers.

If anyone could teach these young guys how to shoot, it would be him.

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48 years have passed so why is CH talking about Brian Magid on gohens? Because he is a legend!

Magid had a reputation
. As Magid was from Silver Springs and had won a state championship in 1975, Maryland fans were more than ready to see him, but he was only playing in garbage time in early-season blowout wins. He came off the bench and hit some incredible long bombs and the fans that packed Cole field house started yelling shooooooooxooooot every time he got the ball…. Magid had already become like the Rocky horror picture show of college basketball with very limited playing time. Just imagine 15,000 people yelling shoot every time you have the ball and when you passed it away things went quiet again, it was quite a spectacle especially for a bench warmer

Lefty had a problem
Magids popularity didn’t impress his head coach. The media was now pumping Brian Magid but Lefty still wasn’t playing him. He thought Magid was too slow and just not athletic enough for serious PT as a freshman. The result of Lefty’s stubbornness only intensified Magid fever

Magid goes viral
So now it’s January 1976 and the ACC games are starting up and Maryland is down on tobacco Road at Duke. I remember the very start of the TV broadcast and needless to say that this was a big game. Despite all that, the announcers were only talking about one guy, they now too we’re burning with Magid fever
They were talking about witnessing a legendary display of shooting in pre-game warm-up where Magid was launching bombs for 20 minutes strait without missing and he was having some fun with the Duke fans …. and of course, the Duke fans were having some fun with him … it involves dollar bills

A Duke fan that witnessed this shooting exhibition describes that event…

Magid?
As long as you guys are recalling the mid-70s and the Duke-Maryland games and the pre-game interaction between the Crazies and a Maryland guard named Brian Magid?

Magid played in 1976 and 1977 (he transferred out after that). For those who don't remember, Magid was a man before his time. He was a pure shooter with unlimited range ... unfortunately, he was playing before the 3-point era. He couldn't run, couldn't defend, couldn't rebound and couldn't put the ball on the floor, but, man, could he shoot. He also had a very slow release.

I think it was before the 1977 Duke-Maryland game (the one that Steve Gray lost with his cross-court pass that hit the basket), but it might have been 1976. Magid came out early to shoot -- this is long before the team's pregame warmups. As he drilled 20-plus footers, he gabbed with the Crazies. After a while, one Duke student came down and put down a one-dollar bill at about 25-feet. Magid promply went over, made the shot from that spot and stuffed the bill in his pants. Other students started coming out, placing dollar bills on the court. Magid would make the shot and claim the bill.

Somebody came down and put a $5 bill at about 40 feet. Magid ignored it for awhile, but as he got ready to leave and join the team in the locker room, he finally floated over and launched a shot from atop the bill. The shot swished, Magid grabbed the money and ran off the floor to the loudest cheers I've every heard in Cameron for a visiting player.

Not sure how much Magid played in the game, but I know he had little or no impact.

Anybody else remember that night?

[UDPat]

Oh well …

With all the talk about the defense, including MI in the post game, the Hens shot 6-24 from 3. They need another shooter in the worst way. Hope Bethea fills that roll. And they got out rebounded 40-29. Which isn’t surprising. The inside game won’t be getting fixed.

Also, teams are going to catch on about Trent and continue to collapse on him when he drives like in the second half. Teams can do that when the Hens shoot so poorly from 3. He takes zero shots other than drives. When him, Ray and Lane are on the court at the same time, other teams will just jam up the lane.

Finally, the funniest line of the night was the Hens would beat Rider 9 of 10. Pretty extreme exaggeration of the difference between the two teams.

Being passive aggressive might be one of the least enduring traits of a human being. I enjoy posting here but you, pal, truly take the fun out of it.

Rider played a pretty perfect game, our defense certainly contributed to that but 50+% field, 50% 3 and close to perfect FT and it took OT to win. I stand by my comment.

Sorry you feel that way DaveB. I thought the “perfect game” and “would beat them 9 out of 10 times” were pretty silly comments after the Hens just lost to a 2-8 team. I figured you made them when you were frustrated, as we all were. But then you doubled down the day after, so I guess not. But it doesn’t really matter as the damage has been done on a lot of levels after losing to a 2-8 MAAC team coming off a big win against a Big East team. A win over Princeton would go a long way to rectify the terrible Rider loss.

I see you continue to ignore questions that you don't have an answer for. Again, how much more defense did you want to sacrifice as you stated on an earlier post??? We gave up 88 points??? Thank you

[Hens79]

Hey Pat, the team is small (again) and has trouble shooting. Houser, quoting MI is an “elite shooter”. I feel he should be playing more than 10 minutes. This team has three starters who play major minutes who are very often on the court at the same time that have made a total of one 3 pointer all year. Pretty simple Pat. The Hens need more shooting. And just curious, are you okay with or excuse losing to Rider because a 2-8 team played a “perfect game”?

[UDPat]

Hey Pat, the team is small (again) and has trouble shooting. Houser, quoting MI is an “elite shooter”, should be playing more than 10 minutes. Pretty simple Pat. And just curious, are you okay with losing to Rider because a 2-8 team played a “perfect game”?

Still ignoring but I will answer your question, No one is happy about the loss, but I don't feel the offense is the issue when the team scores in the 80's in what most described as a bad shooting night.

Unlike you, I don't believe everything I read or hear. For a big man He's a pretty good shooter. His release point is way too low and his feet aren't always set and that causes issues. I'm more of an eye test guy and that is what the test shows me.

We have different philosophies of the game: I believe in defense and you don't. We have both proven that. I'm NEVER putting in of my poorest defenders in a game down the stretch when it's a tight game. Until He starts playing more Collin Goss on the defensive side of the ball, 10 minutes a game is all the player has earned!!!!

[Hens79]

Hey Pat, the team is small (again) and has trouble shooting. Houser, quoting MI is an “elite shooter”, should be playing more than 10 minutes. Pretty simple Pat. And just curious, are you okay with losing to Rider because a 2-8 team played a “perfect game”?

Still ignoring but I will answer your question, No one is happy about the loss, but I don't feel the offense is the issue when the team scores in the 80's in what most described as a bad shooting night.

Unlike you, I don't believe everything I read or hear. For a big man He's a pretty good shooter. His release point is way too low and his feet aren't always set and that causes issues. I'm more of an eye test guy and that is what the test shows me.

We have different philosophies of the game: I believe in defense and you don't. We have both proven that. I'm NEVER putting in of my poorest defenders in a game down the stretch when it's a tight game. Until He starts playing more Collin Goss on the defensive side of the ball, 10 minutes a game is all the player has earned!!!!

Stop it Pat. Just stop it. It was just “as most described”. The Hens were 6-24 from 3. That is bad. It isn’t the only reason the Hens lost, but it sure was one of them including not being “hungry enough on defense” as described by MI. Unfortunately, we have seen that far too much over the years with the Hens.

And Pat, the head coach called Houser an “elite shooter”. C’mon. I know you like to argue with me. But at least keep it in the ball park when the coach says it and in the context he did. And I guess you don’t like Steph Curry’s release point either?

And just stop saying what I believe or don’t. No one, including me “doesn’t believe in defense”. But MI is a defense first coach. He just is. It is how the Hens have two starting guards in Trent and Lane that have combined for 1 3 pointer. Maybe they will win doing this. But I see teams just collapsing on Trent when he drives and starting to take that away like Rider did in the second half.

Anyway, the Hens had a guy who looked over his shoulder all the time about a bad defensive play who became a first team all CAA and was a POY candidate. Maybe Houser will become one too. And maybe Ebby will down at ETSU. Man is he lighting it up at over 17 ppg and 3.5 3s ppg. He probably was told to just shoot and you don’t need to keep looking over your shoulder.

Finally, I don’t care how the Hens win. Just so they do it.

[Caribbean Hen]

Defense

Just to close out my mid 70 Segway, right about the same time as my Maryland and Magid fever story, I remember my dad commented “Maryland doesn’t play any Defense …they’ll never win anything. The Big 10 and Bobby Knights Indiana team would eat em alive”

I was like yeah right dad

You old basketball fans surely know what happened next
31-0 national championship and they beat Big Ten Michigan in the finals.

My love for Maryland hoops was always tainted after that lesson

The little bit of Delaware basketball that I have watched over the past several years as always left me with the same impression …. they just don’t want to play defense

[allteamball]

This thread is all over the place.

Defense- I agree with Carib. I just don’t see MI’s teams “getting after it” on defense on a consistent basis.

Offense - yes, they need another shooter. Is Houser the answer, I don’t know, but give the kid a chance. To me, he really stood out playing 17 productive minutes in first game against Bucknell. I don’t know why his decease in minutes occurred from then on. He is shooting 48% for the season, after all. Give the kid 17-20 minutes a game and see how he handles it. If he can’t handle it, yes, minimal minutes is deserved. Peca Arsic was not a great defender, but Brey saw his value in his outside shot.

Princeton’s coach is now game planning and realizing our weakness from the outside and will plan his defense accordingly.

Princeton is a REALLY good team. They will expose us if we are not prepared.

[UDPat]

Defense

Just to close out my mid 70 Segway, right about the same time as my Maryland and Magid fever story, I remember my dad commented “Maryland doesn’t play any Defense …they’ll never win anything. The Big 10 and Bobby Knights Indiana team would eat em alive”

I was like yeah right dad

You old basketball fans surely know what happened next
31-0 national championship and they beat Big Ten Michigan in the finals.

My love for Maryland hoops was always tainted after that lesson

The little bit of Delaware basketball that I have watched over the past several years as always left me with the same impression …. they just don’t want to play defense

When it comes to basketball, your father was a wise Man!!! Defense does win championships!!!!

I will remind everyone about 3 days in March 2022, 56, 56, 55. Do those numbers mean anything???

Merry Christmas !!!!!!! To everyone!!!