Transfer policy
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Transfer policy
A judge ruled in favor of waiver elimination opening a 14 day window where players who already transferred once can now receive immediate eligibility on 2nd or more transfers.
Another hearing takes place in 2 weeks but for now the gates have been thrown open.
Rhode Island’s F David Green, 6’7 230 will now be eligible to play this Saturday.
Can a player leave their team at the end of the first semester (pretty much right now) and immediately play for a new team next week?
Edit: found my answer. You can’t play for multiple teams in the same season
https://x.com/jeffborzello/status/17350 ... 97442?s=46
Another hearing takes place in 2 weeks but for now the gates have been thrown open.
Rhode Island’s F David Green, 6’7 230 will now be eligible to play this Saturday.
Can a player leave their team at the end of the first semester (pretty much right now) and immediately play for a new team next week?
Edit: found my answer. You can’t play for multiple teams in the same season
https://x.com/jeffborzello/status/17350 ... 97442?s=46
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I’ve grown to be ok with the one time transfer, but a free for all? No thanks.
I’ve grown to be ok with the one time transfer, but a free for all? No thanks.
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Can you imagine being told that you can’t change jobs more than once per year? And one NCAA clown is saying that the kids need to take a year off to deal with their mental health needs.
Yes, a company says you can’t go to another company because you have to stay with them while you deal with your mental health needs.
What an absurd idea. Absolutely bonkers…especially since the NCAA puts limits on the reasons for waivers (one of them being “mental health needs”). Gosh, who would have thought that a player wanting to transfer would say that he is experiencing mental health challenges (which is the number one reason given for the transfers)?
Sure…the NCAA is totally concerned for the student athlete. Riiiiight. Yet, at the same time, they are saying, “Hey, it’s not our fault…the institutions made these rules.”
Same article says that QBs are offered a million or two in NIL money to transfer. Mental health challenges will come from the fact that these kids will now understand that about 40-50% of that money will go to taxes. Heck, if I am from a school in the states of Florida or Washington or any of the other states that don’t have state income taxes, I am pushing that. And if you are at a school in a city with high income taxes in a state with high taxes…man, these kids better hire accountants.
Wild West…indeed.
Yes, a company says you can’t go to another company because you have to stay with them while you deal with your mental health needs.
What an absurd idea. Absolutely bonkers…especially since the NCAA puts limits on the reasons for waivers (one of them being “mental health needs”). Gosh, who would have thought that a player wanting to transfer would say that he is experiencing mental health challenges (which is the number one reason given for the transfers)?
Sure…the NCAA is totally concerned for the student athlete. Riiiiight. Yet, at the same time, they are saying, “Hey, it’s not our fault…the institutions made these rules.”
Same article says that QBs are offered a million or two in NIL money to transfer. Mental health challenges will come from the fact that these kids will now understand that about 40-50% of that money will go to taxes. Heck, if I am from a school in the states of Florida or Washington or any of the other states that don’t have state income taxes, I am pushing that. And if you are at a school in a city with high income taxes in a state with high taxes…man, these kids better hire accountants.
Wild West…indeed.
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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The underreported story is the surprising number that don’t find a new place after entering the portal, or end up playing down a division or level.
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Yes JD this impact of the Portal isn't being highlighted as much as it should be. Hundreds of kids each Period end up with no scholarship or landing spot
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I saw an article that indicated that the NCAA has said that players who transfer and play in the two weeks before the next judicial hearing will be charged with using one year of eligibility if the ruling is reversed. Stay tuned.DaveB wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:14 pm A judge ruled in favor of waiver elimination opening a 14 day window where players who already transferred once can now receive immediate eligibility on 2nd or more transfers.
Another hearing takes place in 2 weeks but for now the gates have been thrown open.
Rhode Island’s F David Green, 6’7 230 will now be eligible to play this Saturday.
Can a player leave their team at the end of the first semester (pretty much right now) and immediately play for a new team next week?
Edit: found my answer. You can’t play for multiple teams in the same season
https://x.com/jeffborzello/status/17350 ... 97442?s=46
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Perhaps some of these athletes that enter the portal, should not have been recruited in the first place to their original destination?
edit. Probably too obvious a comment to have even posted.
#JUST WIN
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I’m pretty sure walk on are part of the total number so while there are scholarship players not finding a home, the numbers are skewed due to walk ons
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No good you posted. Another issue lost in this is as Coaches rebuild their rosters each year, some of these kids are getting nudged out or asked to leave as a "better" prospect becomes available. A former College HC was discussing this very issue this morning on Sirius XM. It's all voluntary and the vast majority are indeed Scholarship players especially at FBS LevelInfo Hound wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:15 amPerhaps some of these athletes that enter the portal, should not have been recruited in the first place to their original destination?
edit. Probably too obvious a comment to have even posted.
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Info is correct.
Also, plenty of kids change schools (for many reasons) all the time. Look at EDD. And many college students just don’t make it…so why should athletes be different?
The portal is just making it easier to track these changes because kids are simply putting their name out there in public to see if there is a “better” alternative for their individual circumstances. Prior to the portal, who really kept track of kids leaving schools?
Also, sometimes “better” means going to a “lower” school.
Schools have X number of spots for athletes. Every year, tons of new potential freshman upgraded talent is up for grabs, so there is going to be turnover as coaches want to load up and win. If those kids don’t work out…always another batch waiting in the wings.
Market forces. Welcome to the world.
Also, plenty of kids change schools (for many reasons) all the time. Look at EDD. And many college students just don’t make it…so why should athletes be different?
The portal is just making it easier to track these changes because kids are simply putting their name out there in public to see if there is a “better” alternative for their individual circumstances. Prior to the portal, who really kept track of kids leaving schools?
Also, sometimes “better” means going to a “lower” school.
Schools have X number of spots for athletes. Every year, tons of new potential freshman upgraded talent is up for grabs, so there is going to be turnover as coaches want to load up and win. If those kids don’t work out…always another batch waiting in the wings.
Market forces. Welcome to the world.
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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Please be careful using specific examples, Your use of EDD is not a particularly good example in this case.Cluck U wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:17 am Info is correct.
Also, plenty of kids change schools (for many reasons) all the time. Look at EDD. And many college students just don’t make it…so why should athletes be different?
The portal is just making it easier to track these changes because kids are simply putting their name out there in public to see if there is a “better” alternative for their individual circumstances. Prior to the portal, who really kept track of kids leaving schools?
Also, sometimes “better” means going to a “lower” school.
Schools have X number of spots for athletes. Every year, tons of new potential freshman upgraded talent is up for grabs, so there is going to be turnover as coaches want to load up and win. If those kids don’t work out…always another batch waiting in the wings.
Market forces. Welcome to the world.
When it comes to Basketball, "I'm smarter than you and you know it"!!
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It is a perfect example.UDPat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:10 pmPlease be careful using specific examples, Your use of EDD is not a particularly good example in this case.Cluck U wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:17 am Info is correct.
Also, plenty of kids change schools (for many reasons) all the time. Look at EDD. And many college students just don’t make it…so why should athletes be different?
The portal is just making it easier to track these changes because kids are simply putting their name out there in public to see if there is a “better” alternative for their individual circumstances. Prior to the portal, who really kept track of kids leaving schools?
Also, sometimes “better” means going to a “lower” school.
Schools have X number of spots for athletes. Every year, tons of new potential freshman upgraded talent is up for grabs, so there is going to be turnover as coaches want to load up and win. If those kids don’t work out…always another batch waiting in the wings.
Market forces. Welcome to the world.
Kids (athletes and non-athletes) change schools (no matter how long they were enrolled) all the time…and for many different reasons. Some make the news and get “counted” and some don’t. Some change subdivisions, some don’t.
The portal measures kids that voluntarily put their names out for the public to see. That makes it easy to report who goes where. The poster said, “the underreported story is the surprising number that don’t find a new place after entering the portal, or end up playing down a division or level.” Key word: underreported. But, is that any different than what was happening prior to the portal? EDD made the news…but what percentage of other players made the news (versus being underreported) before the portal when they changed schools? How many non-superstars make national news when they switch schools?
Non-superstars have always been underreported. The big hired guns always make the news. That’s the way of things. No one hears about the spelling bee kid that finished 68th, or the zillion ranked gymnast that quits or transfers down, unless there is a hook to the story.
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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That is as much as I will say on the subject, It's is a bad example.Cluck U wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:34 pmIt is a perfect example.UDPat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:10 pmPlease be careful using specific examples, Your use of EDD is not a particularly good example in this case.Cluck U wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:17 am Info is correct.
Also, plenty of kids change schools (for many reasons) all the time. Look at EDD. And many college students just don’t make it…so why should athletes be different?
The portal is just making it easier to track these changes because kids are simply putting their name out there in public to see if there is a “better” alternative for their individual circumstances. Prior to the portal, who really kept track of kids leaving schools?
Also, sometimes “better” means going to a “lower” school.
Schools have X number of spots for athletes. Every year, tons of new potential freshman upgraded talent is up for grabs, so there is going to be turnover as coaches want to load up and win. If those kids don’t work out…always another batch waiting in the wings.
Market forces. Welcome to the world.
Kids (athletes and non-athletes) change schools (no matter how long they were enrolled) all the time…and for many different reasons. Some make the news and get “counted” and some don’t. Some change subdivisions, some don’t.
The portal measures kids that voluntarily put their names out for the public to see. That makes it easy to report who goes where. The poster said, “the underreported story is the surprising number that don’t find a new place after entering the portal, or end up playing down a division or level.” Key word: underreported. But, is that any different than what was happening prior to the portal? EDD made the news…but what percentage of other players made the news (versus being underreported) before the portal when they changed schools? How many non-superstars make national news when they switch schools?
Non-superstars have always been underreported. The big hired guns always make the news. That’s the way of things. No one hears about the spelling bee kid that finished 68th, or the zillion ranked gymnast that quits or transfers down, unless there is a hook to the story.
When it comes to Basketball, "I'm smarter than you and you know it"!!
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Nope.UDPat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:59 pmThat is as much as I will say on the subject, It's is a bad example.Cluck U wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:34 pmIt is a perfect example.
Kids (athletes and non-athletes) change schools (no matter how long they were enrolled) all the time…and for many different reasons. Some make the news and get “counted” and some don’t. Some change subdivisions, some don’t.
The portal measures kids that voluntarily put their names out for the public to see. That makes it easy to report who goes where. The poster said, “the underreported story is the surprising number that don’t find a new place after entering the portal, or end up playing down a division or level.” Key word: underreported. But, is that any different than what was happening prior to the portal? EDD made the news…but what percentage of other players made the news (versus being underreported) before the portal when they changed schools? How many non-superstars make national news when they switch schools?
Non-superstars have always been underreported. The big hired guns always make the news. That’s the way of things. No one hears about the spelling bee kid that finished 68th, or the zillion ranked gymnast that quits or transfers down, unless there is a hook to the story.
Excellent example.
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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It is ashamed you are uninformed and I'm not the one to inform you. SorryCluck U wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:25 pmNope.UDPat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:59 pmThat is as much as I will say on the subject, It's is a bad example.Cluck U wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:34 pm
It is a perfect example.
Kids (athletes and non-athletes) change schools (no matter how long they were enrolled) all the time…and for many different reasons. Some make the news and get “counted” and some don’t. Some change subdivisions, some don’t.
The portal measures kids that voluntarily put their names out for the public to see. That makes it easy to report who goes where. The poster said, “the underreported story is the surprising number that don’t find a new place after entering the portal, or end up playing down a division or level.” Key word: underreported. But, is that any different than what was happening prior to the portal? EDD made the news…but what percentage of other players made the news (versus being underreported) before the portal when they changed schools? How many non-superstars make national news when they switch schools?
Non-superstars have always been underreported. The big hired guns always make the news. That’s the way of things. No one hears about the spelling bee kid that finished 68th, or the zillion ranked gymnast that quits or transfers down, unless there is a hook to the story.
Excellent example.
When it comes to Basketball, "I'm smarter than you and you know it"!!