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Arm Chair QB
I always wish we used a bigger defensive front. We opperate out of a 3-2-6 base that is based on getting fast players on the field. Sometimes it is referred to as a 3-3-5 defense. Either way we sacrifice bulk on the DL in plase of overall speed. I much rather we play the 4-2-5 that UNH uses. With a 4 man front we would anothe 290 pounds across the front. McGowan - Hunter - Brognia - Hall would give us a better front against running teams plus allow McGowan to be his best as a pass rusher.
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Re: Arm Chair QB
+1 Just like under Rocco, didn't the current coaching staff make some noise that on some occasions UD's defense would feature a 4 man DL. Maybe I've missed it but I don't recall seeing UD in a 4 man DL for a long time except on maybe some short yardage plays. If there were ever a time to use it this might be it given the opponent and the weather forecast.72 Hen wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:06 pm I always wish we used a bigger defensive front. We opperate out of a 3-2-6 base that is based on getting fast players on the field. Sometimes it is referred to as a 3-3-5 defense. Either way we sacrifice bulk on the DL in plase of overall speed. I much rather we play the 4-2-5 that UNH uses. With a 4 man front we would anothe 290 pounds across the front. McGowan - Hunter - Brognia - Hall would give us a better front against running teams plus allow McGowan to be his best as a pass rusher.
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72, I would love to see a 4 man front. Rojas is on record saying he won’t do that. This would be an excellent time to swallow his ego and do something different.
UNH has a pair of good DEs. We will see which defense is more effective.
If we get run over…Carty should begin the search for a replacement.
UNH has a pair of good DEs. We will see which defense is more effective.
If we get run over…Carty should begin the search for a replacement.
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Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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I've always liked 4 man fronts at any level of football. You do need to make sure you have the players for it though. Not sure if it's a problem of not being able to get the personnel for it or just not looking for them in the first place. The 3-3-5 has it's uses and it can be productive, I just don't think you win in the playoffs consistently enough with that approach.
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Re: Arm Chair QB
i agree, Georgia the past two years dominated teams with BIG athletic lines on both sides of the ball, beef still makes a difference.72 Hen wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:06 pm I always wish we used a bigger defensive front. We opperate out of a 3-2-6 base that is based on getting fast players on the field. Sometimes it is referred to as a 3-3-5 defense. Either way we sacrifice bulk on the DL in plase of overall speed. I much rather we play the 4-2-5 that UNH uses. With a 4 man front we would anothe 290 pounds across the front. McGowan - Hunter - Brognia - Hall would give us a better front against running teams plus allow McGowan to be his best as a pass rusher.
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Re: Arm Chair QB
Is Hunter healthy now?72 Hen wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:06 pm I always wish we used a bigger defensive front. We opperate out of a 3-2-6 base that is based on getting fast players on the field. Sometimes it is referred to as a 3-3-5 defense. Either way we sacrifice bulk on the DL in plase of overall speed. I much rather we play the 4-2-5 that UNH uses. With a 4 man front we would anothe 290 pounds across the front. McGowan - Hunter - Brognia - Hall would give us a better front against running teams plus allow McGowan to be his best as a pass rusher.
I’m all for seeing Hunter and Brogna playing at same time
If you can get enough good DL to play it …4-3 is the way
Rocco interview years ago said hard to recruit for 4-3 at FCS level and it affected special teams … or something like that. 3-3-5 players are interchangeable with special teams whereas 4-3 Brogna and Hunter types are not
JMU found a way to do it
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Re: Arm Chair QB
YES!72 Hen wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:06 pm I always wish we used a bigger defensive front. We opperate out of a 3-2-6 base that is based on getting fast players on the field. Sometimes it is referred to as a 3-3-5 defense. Either way we sacrifice bulk on the DL in plase of overall speed. I much rather we play the 4-2-5 that UNH uses. With a 4 man front we would anothe 290 pounds across the front. McGowan - Hunter - Brognia - Hall would give us a better front against running teams plus allow McGowan to be his best as a pass rusher.
They need to give this a try against good running teams. We have the guys on the team that can do it when it makes sense. I don't get why the Rocco Defensive staff was kept. Rojas is as stubborn as Rocco. I can see that the numbers for the Hens defense are decent against smaller untalented teams (which is 80 percent of the teams we play) but good teams with physical running games the D is terrible. To beat the Hens badly the game plan is power running. The 3-2-6 has no answer for Power Running offenses. The 3-2-6 has a ceiling and it's not an NC at the FCS level or anything at FBS level. Is the Rojas 3-2-6 Different than what Cosh was doing when he was here? Was the Cosh D a traditional 3-4-4?
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I believe I heard Rojas say this as well.Cluck U wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:40 am 72, I would love to see a 4 man front. Rojas is on record saying he won’t do that. This would be an excellent time to swallow his ego and do something different.
UNH has a pair of good DEs. We will see which defense is more effective.
If we get run over…Carty should begin the search for a replacement.
However, at the Blue Hen TD club lunch this year he said we would see multiple type fronts although the base front is 3 down linemen. I have seen the Hens line up 5 across this year, not the standard four down players but 3 down and a linebacker/safety flanking the DLinemen. At times 4 that includes a LB.
Maybe for NH and the rain we will see a true 4 man front.
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Maybe...but not likely. But, we can all hope.mpwerrell wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:17 pmI believe I heard Rojas say this as well.Cluck U wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:40 am 72, I would love to see a 4 man front. Rojas is on record saying he won’t do that. This would be an excellent time to swallow his ego and do something different.
UNH has a pair of good DEs. We will see which defense is more effective.
If we get run over…Carty should begin the search for a replacement.
However, at the Blue Hen TD club lunch this year he said we would see multiple type fronts although the base front is 3 down linemen. I have seen the Hens line up 5 across this year, not the standard four down players but 3 down and a linebacker/safety flanking the DLinemen. At times 4 that includes a LB.
Maybe for NH and the rain we will see a true 4 man front.
Perhaps someone can hold up signs and chant, "Four D-Linemen! Four D-linemen!"
Rojas occasionally puts another person or two on/near the line. The hope (and that is all it is) is that the O will get confused about blocking assignments and that the lighter D players will have the speed to get to the ball.
The problem is, as we have too often seen, the extra "lineman"(or two) are 220 or 210 lbs...and a skilled, experienced OL will simply pick up their blocking assignments and push our little guys out of the way (or plow through them) and our back 6 or 7 repeatedly end up making tackles 5 or more yards down field. Win or lose, if we see that happening again Saturday, with no real adjustments from Rojas...I hope that will be the beginning of the end of this D.
We aren't built to win it all this year. Make the playoffs again this year, enjoy another home playoff win...learn the lessons, and then get even better again next year.
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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No matter what the alignment is, the whole front 7, at least the 7 spots on the field that make up a traditional front 7 is just too small and doesn’t come close to balancing that out with enough speed. It is plain to see.
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Re: Arm Chair QB
Often times the extra 2 weigh 200lbs. We have got to do a better job of protecting the edges.mpwerrell wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:17 pmI believe I heard Rojas say this as well.Cluck U wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:40 am 72, I would love to see a 4 man front. Rojas is on record saying he won’t do that. This would be an excellent time to swallow his ego and do something different.
UNH has a pair of good DEs. We will see which defense is more effective.
If we get run over…Carty should begin the search for a replacement.
However, at the Blue Hen TD club lunch this year he said we would see multiple type fronts although the base front is 3 down linemen. I have seen the Hens line up 5 across this year, not the standard four down players but 3 down and a linebacker/safety flanking the DLinemen. At times 4 that includes a LB.
Maybe for NH and the rain we will see a true 4 man front.
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Re: Arm Chair QB
You guys can stop this silliness of thinking you know better than our DC. How many yards did the best player in the division have? With the exception of the kickoff return. They made that team try and beat them with everybody else and the couldn't. Kudos coach.
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Don't like a grown man wearing his hat backwards, but as the say: Just Win Baby & props for shutting down the RB!Section J wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:51 am You guys can stop this silliness of thinking you know better than our DC. How many yards did the best player in the division have? With the exception of the kickoff return. They made that team try and beat them with everybody else and the couldn't. Kudos coach.
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Sure. Celebrate one game against a mediocre CAA team whose coach decided to throw 59 times on a windy day.Section J wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:51 am You guys can stop this silliness of thinking you know better than our DC. How many yards did the best player in the division have? With the exception of the kickoff return. They made that team try and beat them with everybody else and the couldn't. Kudos coach.
Sure is good to have those complete arse whippings fading from memory…for some.
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS
Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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Oh, you mean the 12th ranked team in the division, thought you were talking about somebody else.Cluck U wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 7:23 amSure. Celebrate one game against a mediocre CAA team whose coach decided to throw 59 times on a windy day.Section J wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:51 am You guys can stop this silliness of thinking you know better than our DC. How many yards did the best player in the division have? With the exception of the kickoff return. They made that team try and beat them with everybody else and the couldn't. Kudos coach.
Sure is good to have those complete arse whippings fading from memory…for some.
Ever wonder why they chose to throw the ball that much?
Now you know better than Ricky Santos too.
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