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This is a very subjective subject but fun to discuss. I gave this some thoughts and just for Fun and Discussion here's a few of MY thoughts having seen every Hens team frequently since 1968.......

Wide Receivers-

Best OVERALL - Conti, J Elliott, Pitts, A Love

Best HANDS- Conti, Pitts, Buchman, Veach

ROUTES- J Elliott, R Whithelder, J Bleymeier, K Michaud

SPEED - C Batts, Conti, James Anderson, J Hooks, Rob Jones

BLOCKING- J Colbert, P Walker, D Boler, M Mackey, P Ravetine

CLUTCH OVERALL- Conti, Elliott, Pitts, D Boler, P Walker

BEST DUO- Conti/Batts.....B Veach/J Elliott....ALove/MDuncan

TOUGHNESS- Conti, K Michaud, Veach, J Hooks, Rob Jones

Lotsa great memories.
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HENJOHN wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:15 pm This is a very subjective subject but fun to discuss. I gave this some thoughts and just for Fun and Discussion here's a few of MY thoughts having seen every Hens team frequently since 1968.......

Wide Receivers-

Best OVERALL - Conti, J Elliott, Pitts, A Love

Best HANDS- Conti, Pitts, Buchman, Veach

ROUTES- J Elliott, R Whithelder, J Bleymeier, K Michaud

SPEED - C Batts, Conti, James Anderson, J Hooks, Rob Jones

BLOCKING- J Colbert, P Walker, D Boler, M Mackey, P Ravetine

CLUTCH OVERALL- Conti, Elliott, Pitts, D Boler, P Walker

BEST DUO- Conti/Batts.....B Veach/J Elliott....ALove/MDuncan

TOUGHNESS- Conti, K Michaud, Veach, J Hooks, Rob Jones

Lotsa great memories.
John, this is exactly the kind of post I was hoping for

Jay Hooks! I can still see that Bruner to Hooks Hook up in the 79 championship game, that was some pure speed. I remember the name Pete Ravetine from radio, saw him on TV in E Illinois game

I completely missed Conti and Batts era and much more

In my smaller view on Delaware WRs, circa 2010 was the best collective group prior to this one. We had Rob Jones, Nijah White, Harrison and Micheal Johnson I believe. KC even commented they might be best group in FCS at that time. Honestly, I thought that was a stretch

2003 loved Boler, and the lanky Georgia Wr, Bleymeier

This group right now is deep, no Conti but when you get down to the 3 4 5 and 6 th guy …. All good and we’ll see if they can live up to the potential
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Great list John, but you've gotta find a spot for Justin Long. A real shame his time here was cut short.
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Attila the Hen wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:10 pm Great list John, but you've gotta find a spot for Justin Long. A real shame his time here was cut short.
No argument from me but I couldn't list everybody BUT I had him on my first draft with Best HANDS-. He was a good one
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HENJOHN wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:15 pm This is a very subjective subject but fun to discuss. I gave this some thoughts and just for Fun and Discussion here's a few of MY thoughts having seen every Hens team frequently since 1968.......

Wide Receivers-

Best OVERALL - Conti, J Elliott, Pitts, A Love

Best HANDS- Conti, Pitts, Buchman, Veach

ROUTES- J Elliott, R Whithelder, J Bleymeier, K Michaud

SPEED - C Batts, Conti, James Anderson, J Hooks, Rob Jones

BLOCKING- J Colbert, P Walker, D Boler, M Mackey, P Ravetine

CLUTCH OVERALL- Conti, Elliott, Pitts, D Boler, P Walker

BEST DUO- Conti/Batts.....B Veach/J Elliott....ALove/MDuncan

TOUGHNESS- Conti, K Michaud, Veach, J Hooks, Rob Jones

Lotsa great memories.
Great post HJ, I saw a review of the weekend on ESPN 2 today and they were discussing the Colorado win over TCU 45 - 42. New coach Sanders with 51 transfers and 21 freshmen has created an instant buzz for the lost program. They said his success was due to his SCHEMING players wide open in his new offense and it could be the offense of the future in FBS. Wonder where we heard of that offense before? They also said speed was very important but not totally necessary due to the stress it puts on the defenses.
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He wasn't flashy, but the best hands I've seen at UD was Bill Cubit. He never dropped anything he got his hands on.
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Excellent list. I'd add Michael Johnson to make it complete.

Very difficult to actually rate Blue Hen WR's because of the offensives they participated in but Conti was far and away the most dynamic player I've ever seen . When he got the ball receiving or returning the end zone was a strong possibility.

I love speed on the offensive but I'm concerned that spreading the ball around so much may indeed lead to some unhappy campers at the end of the season.

I think Colorado briefly showed that you don't need a fresh receiver every play to be successful, Hunter was unbelievable and he hardly ever rested, playing both ways.

Lots of talent catching passes this season but let's make our final evaluations when the season is completed rather then on paper.
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Micheal Johnson! That's one I did forget and certainly worthy HZ. It's hard to remember all the WRs over 55 years but I gave it a shot
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HENJOHN wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:15 am Micheal Johnson! That's one I did forget and certainly worthy HZ. It's hard to remember all the WRs over 55 years but I gave it a shot
Carribe mentioned Michael Johnson in his post. :D

Carty's offense is what it is...and it isn't going to change. O'Conner's quote describes the offense to a T, and he expects the ball to be passed around to everyone. Plug-and-Play...keep the legs fresh and keep the D from getting comfortable with any one receiver's' habits. Frankly, only an egomaniac wouldn't want to play in this offense. Plenty of passes to go around...and WRs will also be running the ball on sweeps. Every receiver will be put into positions where they can make a long play and get the TD. We don't need selfish players...we need the TEAM to win.
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Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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Cluck U wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:00 pm
HENJOHN wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:15 am Micheal Johnson! That's one I did forget and certainly worthy HZ. It's hard to remember all the WRs over 55 years but I gave it a shot
Carribe mentioned Michael Johnson in his post. :D

Carty's offense is what it is...and it isn't going to change. O'Conner's quote describes the offense to a T, and he expects the ball to be passed around to everyone. Plug-and-Play...keep the legs fresh and keep the D from getting comfortable with any one receiver's' habits. Frankly, only an egomaniac wouldn't want to play in this offense. Plenty of passes to go around...and WRs will also be running the ball on sweeps. Every receiver will be put into positions where they can make a long play and get the TD. We don't need selfish players...we need the TEAM to win.
Cluck, you’re right on the mark again just like our back up quarterback

The players that are here now just seem like they want to win, they knew coming in it was a share the wealth type of offense. Lots of seniors so yes, they will be leaving after this year.

From Dans article

Carty sees the wide variety of Blue Hen pass-catchers involved at Stony Brook as the norm for his offense.

“In fairness, it usually is,” Carty said of the ball distribution. “That’s who we are. We spread the ball around because it’s not about throwing it to a person. It’s about scheme and it’s about what’s open and it’s about getting the ball to the people who can make plays.

“We have a lot of them, so we’re gonna keep getting the ball to all of them.”
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:06 pm “In fairness, it usually is,” Carty said of the ball distribution. “That’s who we are. We spread the ball around because it’s not about throwing it to a person. It’s about scheme and it’s about what’s open and it’s about getting the ball to the people who can make plays.

“We have a lot of them, so we’re gonna keep getting the ball to all of them.”
You beat me to it.

Carty's scheme requires LOTS of available receivers since the run game is such a small part of the total equation. At least if the 1st half of Stony is any indication.
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Some more talented than we even realize.

https://bluehens.com/news/2023/9/5/foot ... hy-nominee

You gotta be good to gain acceptance at UD. :D
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You have to give some credit to the QB's that some of the past WR's played with. Could you immagine our 2023 WR's playing with Nagy or Flacco. On the other hand could you immagine our best WR's of the past playing in the Carty offense. It is so hard to compare the best ever group of WR's but this class might be the deepest and with possibly the best overall speed.
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77HEN wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 1:49 pm Some more talented than we even realize.

https://bluehens.com/news/2023/9/5/foot ... hy-nominee

You gotta be good to gain acceptance at UD. :D
Good il’ What’s-His-Name.

Some still wonder why Carty brought in more receivers. Now we know…it was to improve the team’s GPA. :lol:
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
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72 Hen wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:40 pm You have to give some credit to the QB's that some of the past WR's played with. Could you immagine our 2023 WR's playing with Nagy or Flacco. On the other hand could you immagine our best WR's of the past playing in the Carty offense. It is so hard to compare the best ever group of WR's but this class might be the deepest and with possibly the best overall speed.
My original statement was that the question itself was absolutely premature thus kind of stupid. That hasn't changed. When this season is over we can evaluate the results and make our own conclusions and compare to past years if people care to. We have people who always want to convince others they are right for some odd reason. The first game ratio was 57/43 pass/run which I see as reasonable but we certainly are going to have to establish a run game if we are to be as successful as we all want. I make no mention of our red zone status as of only game 1 .

Tubby was smart enough to take one of the most successful running games in the (Wing T) USA and slowly modify it to accommodate a strong passing game and came up with some super stats and special RB's, QB's as well as receivers. Carty can do whatever it takes to win and I'm on his side .

As for your comment on the QB's. The good ones would find a way to move the ball and win ball games. The best players need to be on the field regardless of the schemes.
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