Offensive Line Update

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mpwerrell wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 5:14 pm Clinton, MD native Will Harrrod 6-5, 325 OL is no longer on the Florida roster as of today.
Red-shirt year in 2019 and COVID year gives him 2 years eligibility. He did not play much at UF.
Received 31 offers out of high school.
that's what I'm talkin' about MP W

coaches- get your motor runnin'- head out on the highway"- Down I95 in a New York Minute. I recall posting at the end of last season's demise that THAT is exactly what I posted for our staff to do. It's nothing new just a new release 2.0 version. Really, not even that since the kids were moving for a few years. Remember some of those outstanding qbs that UD signed over the years claiming they would lead us to the promised land. You guys sure do remember-how could we forget the deflation when they were not what we were told :oops: This thought leads to our present QB a little more than a month away. I liked the few minutes I viewed Of O"Conner last season- he showed some poise, but can he take the hits???? Is Marker really the answer??? Well, we have a good # more on the roster. Why not land one experienced Transfer for the most important position on the field? The # of names in the portal were humongous, but no luck?? Could it be our FCS status? I don't have a clue. I'm gonna root/support our guys, but. I simply don't get it- can one of you please all explain my befuddlement?

I agree with UDF's "surprise that not one transfer was brought in" to the OL. Hey, RC is the coach but last year's pass blocking was literally non existent. The Transfer Portal is a joke, but you gotta play by the rules so "Get 'ER DONE" :wink: :roll:
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Henzone wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:02 pm
Udforever1 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:19 pm
Henzone wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:25 pm Pitts,Henderson and an exceptional group of defensive players didn't deserve the results .
It was very important we take advantage of the talent available -we didn't. I'm optimistic but like you surprised of the lack of incoming OL transfers. I really want to believe we have the right guy but the results so far make me skeptical
Experienced? For sure. Exceptional? In some areas. Unfortunately though it was similar to 2017 with 3 NFL starters on the defensive side of the ball where we missed the playoffs. Same thing in 2018 where we underachieved. Hopefully, Carty and co can get this program to stop underachieving and back to winning consistently, along with some titles mixed in. I gave Brock and Rocco patience for a while, willing to do the same with Carty.
Brock & Rocco were both fired . I don't want Ryan to be . Why we would want to compare Carty to them is puzzling yet that seems to be the theme. You can give Ryan all the time you wish, I respect that but it's not going to stop me from pointing out the obvious weaknesses that need to be corrected. I expect a coach who called offensive plays for 11 years to be a lot more successful with the talent I saw on the field . Our red zone numbers which reflect directly on him were terrible ! I like his energy and I think he'll be a very successful recruiter but I just expected more last season.
C’mon HZ, it’s obvious you think of Carty like a mother-in-law, part of the family, but not necessarily a family member a lot of guys are very fond of.

You can criticize Carty all you want, he ain’t perfect, but people might take you more seriously if you also pointed out some of the good stuff.

Henderson tossed 35 TD passes last year good for top 5 in nation

The year before Carty got here The Hens were 5-6 and the 9 TD passes were near the bottom of FCS… embarrassing

Big improvement in year 1, but you’re right about one thing… We all want even more!!

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posted by Joe C December 10th, 2019
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Spot on Cariibe.

For those who want to educate themselves on the facts…below are the 2022 versus 2021 comparisons. Only a fool would choose the 2021 stats and talk negatively about the new offense after being silent about our previous offensive futilities.

https://bluehens.com/sports/football/stats/2022

https://bluehens.com/sports/football/stats/2021

Carty inherited a blah team with a boatload of holes, added some much needed talent without having en entire recruiting season, saved several players from leaving, and took our team into the playoffs, getting a home victory, in his first year.

Carty’s only mistakes were that he didn’t walk on water and didn’t massage someone’s ego. :lol:
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS

Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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Caribbe- Appreciate your concern for my opinion of Carty. I do like the guy and am hopeful he has a future here. That doesn't add any more numbers in the win column so it 's really not an issue though. This message board is a great tool for Hen fans who are trying to find out as much info about their team as possible. I've assisted 72Hen for many years in updating the depth chart based on my practice observations. Despite an interesting personal conversation with our head coach who seemed to welcome occasional visitors he's now reversed his decision and a weekly or bi weekly visit has been revoked for almost everyone who does not make a personal "appointment" . And then it's iffy. I'm really not interested in his process as Tubby, KC, Dave & Danny seemed to realize the small group of admirers were a positive for the program not undercover spies.

I certainly respect his opinion but because of his paranoia at practice and his distrust of the media on a regular basis the lack of info can indeed hamper the early season excitement of a lot of fans.

But again, it's about winning and if he does that regularity the rest won't matter will it? Just wanted to answer your question you posed several days ago......

"Has Carty been asked about it? Is not like he’s in the WH, somebody needs to ask the tough questions"
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Hengrad07 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:40 am Less than 8-3 with this “cupcake” schedule would be a disaster - I see winning a home playoff game & hopefully a road win before losing to a powerful FCS team - no more playoff blowout losses 🙏
So by that 8 regular season win standard, Delaware has been besieged by a “disaster” every year for the past 13 years … what a resilient state!

Maybe the “cupcakes” are an offering to the Gods to make the tidal waves, earthquakes, volcanoes and the plagues stop
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Back on the OL topic:

It may not happen this year but Thomas Chernasky is going to be a starting OT by next year. He has transitioned from TE and has bulked up to 270 pounds. He has the footwork to play the position and is more athletic than many on our roster.
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72 Hen wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:41 am Back on the OL topic:

It may not happen this year but Thomas Chernasky is going to be a starting OT by next year. He has transitioned from TE and has bulked up to 270 pounds. He has the footwork to play the position and is more athletic than many on our roster.
I like this kid too. Be watching this summer
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72 Hen wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:41 am Back on the OL topic:

It may not happen this year but Thomas Chernasky is going to be a starting OT by next year. He has transitioned from TE and has bulked up to 270 pounds. He has the footwork to play the position and is more athletic than many on our roster.
Love to hear that. NDSU and SDSU have a history of taking TE’s and making them into O-lineman…often because of their footwork.

How long does it take for a player to bulk up (efficiently…not just add a bunch of fat)? OTs are now getting bigger and bigger, while still expected to have quickness to counter the fast DEs. Can’t see a 270lb OT out there, so is it realistic to believe TC can add 40 more pounds in a year and still keep his dancing shoes on? Serious question.
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS

Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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Cluck- with all due respect- I bet you forgot the old adages about SIZE. :roll:
Speed kills and technique often wins over size :lol: Our past Linemen on this board are well aware of these and other factors that come into play so TC might add another 15lbs of muscle to his frame over this next year. Then if he's a nasty mad dog, he might handle those behemoths successfully.
72Hen- his hs accomplishments, esp. bball, indicate his athletic ability. Caccese appears to be of the same mold though even bigger coming in around 290. Let's hope the bios/videos are correct.
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tenn hen,

With all due respect, a 270 OT isn’t going to cut it against the big boys from the MVFC…even if the kid was a ninja warrior. 285 isn’t going to work either.

If CT is to be an OT next year, as in next August’s first game, my question is what is a weight gain schedule that gets him big enough to be an effective starting OT?

Do players gain a lot of weight during the season? Thought they didn’t bulk up much during the season. Hopefully, our season goes into December. Figure players take some time off during the holidays to heal and rest. Can a player add 30-40 pounds in a healthy way in the off-season?

Just a question.
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
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Cluck U wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:08 am tenn hen,

With all due respect, a 270 OT isn’t going to cut it against the big boys from the MVFC…even if the kid was a ninja warrior. 285 isn’t going to work either.

If CT is to be an OT next year, as in next August’s first game, my question is what is a weight gain schedule that gets him big enough to be an effective starting OT?

Do players gain a lot of weight during the season? Thought they didn’t bulk up much during the season. Hopefully, our season goes into December. Figure players take some time off during the holidays to heal and rest. Can a player add 30-40 pounds in a healthy way in the off-season?

Just a question.


Tom bulked up from 240 to 270 since this time last year. No belly hanging over his pants. I think it is reasonable to expect him to be at 285 to to 290 this time next year. Along with the footwork of a TE he is 6'5" and has the long arms that benefit OT's.

Fintan Brose is starting at OT weighing 280 pounds. We have tried some tackles that weigh more than 300 pounds and watched edge rushers just blow right by them. I look for Tom Chernasky to be a starter by next year because he is athletic, has good feet and long arms.

The center of our OL is plenty big. Shupp 340, Gingrich 290 and Anyanwu 325. Gingrich is excellent at reaching the second level of defenders on sweeps. Our backup guards are both over 300 pounds.

Fintan Brose is starting at OT weighing 280 pounds. We have tried some tackles that weigh more than 300 pounds and watched edge rushers just blow right by them. I look for Tom Chernasky to be a starter by next year because he is athletic, has good feet and long arms.

So we will have to wait and see but my early projection is that Thomas Chernasky is one to keep an eye on.
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Fintan Brose is a special athlete. I, like Cluck, would prefer bigger O Tackles but Brose made 3rd team all conference in 2022.
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Thanks, 72. Good info…much respect. Happy to hear he is putting on weight the right way.

290 next year…TC’s Junior year. Still hope he can add another 10lbs for his senior year.

As a comparison, SDSU had a 6’8” 280lb sophomore OT as a back up last year and a 6’5” 290lb sophomore back up on the other side. My bet is that they will be bigger and stronger this year. Not many upper class man under 300lbs. Their junior OT starter was 300lbs. Big and quick is better than small and quick.
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS

Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
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Cluck U wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:36 pm Thanks, 72. Good info…much respect. Happy to hear he is putting on weight the right way.

290 next year…TC’s Junior year. Still hope he can add another 10lbs for his senior year.

As a comparison, SDSU had a 6’8” 280lb sophomore OT as a back up last year and a 6’5” 290lb sophomore back up on the other side. My bet is that they will be bigger and stronger this year. Not many upper class man under 300lbs. Their junior OT starter was 300lbs. Big and quick is better than small and quick.
Jason Kelce might disagree with your thinking…. It’s not always the biggest guy
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https://247sports.com/college/football/ ... 35699/Amp/

Interesting article about tight ends becoming offensive tackles, some who have gone on to become Pro Bowl NFL tackles.
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