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Re: UMass to the MAC

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Why would Western Kentucky want to leave CUSA when it is, according to some posters, a far superior conference to the MAC? Asking for a friend.
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rooneyguy wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:07 pm Why would Western Kentucky want to leave CUSA when it is, according to some posters, a far superior conference to the MAC? Asking for a friend.
Have the friend ask them and report back.

I guess this is what fills the void for praising or excusing MI?
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Re: UMass to the MAC

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Bluewyn Gold wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:14 pm
jd of de wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:36 pmThe Minutemen not having to fill a 12 game schedule as an independent will free up other eastern seaboard schools to consider home-home contracts with the Hens.
Very good point, sir.

Not shocked UMass is moving back to the MAC but with all sports this time. Travel would be much the same in CUSA: a lot of flights either way.

The Toledo paper indicates there's mutual interest between Western Kentucky and the MAC. That would not be good news for Delaware. https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/col ... 240226098
Bluewyn Gold, Why would W Kentucky leaving the CUSA for the MAC "not be good news for Delaware"?
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Re: UMass to the MAC

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I was told relatively recently from a source that I respect and who should be in a position to know that when UD was considering its move to FBS UD approached the MAC and was told that the MAC had no interest in adding UD. When I asked why, this source said that they did not know. I would appreciate it if anyone on these boards is in a position where they can confirm or refute this story here. Further, if offering a confirmation I would appreciate any insight into why the MAC would not be interested in adding UD.

I believe that the majority opinion on these boards is that CUSA is a better move for UD than the MAC would be. I would appreciate any pros or cons and the reasons why to that view.
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Re: UMass to the MAC

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jd of de wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:40 pmOn top of the standard $3.0m exit fee.
Or would they get the same $1.75M exit fee deal that Marshall, USM & ODU paid out?
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Re: UMass to the MAC

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BlueHenBill wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:43 pmBluewyn Gold, Why would W Kentucky leaving the CUSA for the MAC "not be good news for Delaware"?
How would losing a solid football and men's basketball program be a plus for Delaware, William?
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Hens79 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:45 pm
rooneyguy wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:07 pm Why would Western Kentucky want to leave CUSA when it is, according to some posters, a far superior conference to the MAC? Asking for a friend.
Have the friend ask them and report back.

I guess this is what fills the void for praising or excusing MI?
Too funny, 79…maybe the same friend should stomp up and down and throw chairs in protest of our move to CUSA??? 😆

just another example of how some continue to make excuses for MI and use exaggerations to make their point.
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finpxz1 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:59 pm
Hens79 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:45 pm
rooneyguy wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:07 pm Why would Western Kentucky want to leave CUSA when it is, according to some posters, a far superior conference to the MAC? Asking for a friend.
Have the friend ask them and report back.

I guess this is what fills the void for praising or excusing MI?
Too funny, 79…maybe the same friend should stomp up and down and throw chairs in protest of our move to CUSA??? 😆

just another example of how some continue to make excuses for MI and use exaggerations to make their point.
UDMBB should be better, but I'll take MI’s 8 years over Ross’ 10 years, all day long!
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From one of the articles linked above

“Conference USA is as transitory of a conference as there is in college football, while the MAC has been about as stable as any conference throughout history. Standing at 10 teams for the 2024 season, the CUSA is the smallest conference in the FBS— but it has housed more programs than any other league, despite first launching in 1996. Of the 134 teams set to compete in the FBS in 2024, 31 have participated in the CUSA — over 23 percent of all football programs at the top level”
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Re: UMass to the MAC

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Hengrad07 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:43 am
finpxz1 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:59 pm
Hens79 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:45 pm

Have the friend ask them and report back.

I guess this is what fills the void for praising or excusing MI?
Too funny, 79…maybe the same friend should stomp up and down and throw chairs in protest of our move to CUSA??? 😆

just another example of how some continue to make excuses for MI and use exaggerations to make their point.
UDMBB should be better, but I'll take MI’s 8 years over Ross’ 10 years, all day long!
Well that’s certainly something to aspire to…being better than Monte Ross. Holy smokes Batman!!!
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Re: UMass to the MAC

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dchen wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:20 am From one of the articles linked above

“Conference USA is as transitory of a conference as there is in college football, while the MAC has been about as stable as any conference throughout history. Standing at 10 teams for the 2024 season, the CUSA is the smallest conference in the FBS— but it has housed more programs than any other league, despite first launching in 1996. Of the 134 teams set to compete in the FBS in 2024, 31 have participated in the CUSA — over 23 percent of all football programs at the top level”
CUSA - Can U Stay Awhile?


Sure, but not too long.
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dchen wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:20 am From one of the articles linked above

“Conference USA is as transitory of a conference as there is in college football, while the MAC has been about as stable as any conference throughout history. Standing at 10 teams for the 2024 season, the CUSA is the smallest conference in the FBS— but it has housed more programs than any other league, despite first launching in 1996. Of the 134 teams set to compete in the FBS in 2024, 31 have participated in the CUSA — over 23 percent of all football programs at the top level”
CUSA sounds like the AirBnb of FBS but still more interesting than the rust belt MAC
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Re: UMass to the MAC

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Bluewyn Gold wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:41 pm
jd of de wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:40 pmOn top of the standard $3.0m exit fee.
Or would they get the same $1.75M exit fee deal that Marshall, USM & ODU paid out?
That amount was correct in 2022, but I was told it's gone up to $3m and that took place in 2023 when the GOR went into effect.
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Re: UMass to the MAC

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jd of de wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:07 am
Bluewyn Gold wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:41 pm
jd of de wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:40 pmOn top of the standard $3.0m exit fee.
Or would they get the same $1.75M exit fee deal that Marshall, USM & ODU paid out?
That amount was correct in 2022, but I was told it's gone up to $3m and that took place in 2023 when the GOR went into effect.
When is Delaware officially in CUSA?

Rumors and I’ll say it again rumors flying that Delaware could still go the MAC before July 1st thus avoiding the CUSA exit fee

Of course they would need to be invited and even if they were, Delaware is probably not even contemplating such a move

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BlueHenBill wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:57 pm I was told relatively recently from a source that I respect and who should be in a position to know that when UD was considering its move to FBS UD approached the MAC and was told that the MAC had no interest in adding UD. When I asked why, this source said that they did not know. I would appreciate it if anyone on these boards is in a position where they can confirm or refute this story here. Further, if offering a confirmation I would appreciate any insight into why the MAC would not be interested in adding UD.

I believe that the majority opinion on these boards is that CUSA is a better move for UD than the MAC would be. I would appreciate any pros or cons and the reasons why to that view.
Does the MAC have any history of transitioning in a program from FCS?
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