Stony Brook

Respectful and civil discussion of Delaware Football
Forum rules
1. Be respectful of our online community and contribute to an engaging conversation. We reserve the right to ban impersonators and remove comments that contain personal attacks, threats, or profanity, or are flat-out offensive.
2. Stay on topic. If you feel you really have something to add that doesn’t quite fit the current topic, start a new one.
3. Keep rebuttals and disagreements impersonal. You can disagree with someone respectfully without resorting to name-calling or other insults.
4. Do not single out players for criticism by name, number or position. These are 18-23 year-old kids that are trying their best while juggling a college class load. Let’s be supportive.
5. Remember always that players read these boards; players’ families read these boards; respective recruits read these boards; opposing fans read these boards. As a GoHens.net member, YOU represent Delaware Football to others. Please do so in a positive manner.
User avatar
Henzone
Posts: 12439
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:42 am

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Henzone »

hensfan40yrs wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:23 am
Cluck U wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:37 am The QBs will be running (not just for their lives).

Carty football.
(not just for their lives) will be a huge positive. The bad road losses of the past hopefully are over?
Does Carty football include being 8th in the CAA in 2022 4th down conversions or is it more like the defensive struggles of 2007?

"After four and one-half hours, 118 points, and 1,044 total yards, No. 9 Richmond (8-2, 6-1 CAA) finally survived with a 62-56 victory when Josh Vaughan scored on a 13-yard run to open the fifth overtime period and the Spiders then held the No. 6 Fightin' Blue Hens on downs."
Image
User avatar
HENJOHN
Posts: 12360
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:24 pm
Location: Bear, Delaware

Re: Stony Brook

Post by HENJOHN »

It's easy to pick out the downside of someone's first season which seems to be a calling for some. There's some positive results and contributions from this Staff coming into a sliding program as well. Success or Fail for Coach Carty and his staff, it's just been one flipping season so let's try and give this group a chance and see where it takes us.
User avatar
Henzone
Posts: 12439
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:42 am

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Henzone »

John- You should have been a defense attorney. My reply was to Clucky Boy who was touting Carty football . Whatever the hell that is. I've said enough positives about our 2023 team to write a brief but being real means recognizing our weaknesses and not just shake pom poms in the air every day on here.
Image
Udforever1
Recruiting Specialist
Recruiting Specialist
Posts: 3218
Joined: Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:21 pm
UD Class: 1900

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Udforever1 »

HENJOHN wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:11 pm It's easy to pick out the downside of someone's first season which seems to be a calling for some. There's some positive results and contributions from this Staff coming into a sliding program as well. Success or Fail for Coach Carty and his staff, it's just been one flipping season so let's try and give this group a chance and see where it takes us.
Agree HJ. Hopefully we don’t get a thread after every game this year nit picking what went wrong, including the one where we knocked off an FBS and put up 56 en route to our first fall playoff win in over a decade.
User avatar
HENJOHN
Posts: 12360
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:24 pm
Location: Bear, Delaware

Re: Stony Brook

Post by HENJOHN »

Henzone wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:25 pm John- You should have been a defense attorney. My reply was to Clucky Boy who was touting Carty football . Whatever the hell that is. I've said enough positives about our 2023 team to write a brief but being real means recognizing our weaknesses and not just shake pom poms in the air every day on here.
No Pom Poms here HZ. Just asking that folks remember we are only one year in with this staff, nothing more. I see all the games so I see the + and the -. Why would you care if someone voices supports the Coach? The post right before this one is what I'm talking about as the other side of the story. So Pom Poms or Pitchforks, guess you need to decide.
Last edited by HENJOHN on Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Caribbean Hen
Posts: 11874
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:07 am
UD Class: 2024
Location: San Juan Puerto Rico

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Caribbean Hen »

Udforever1 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:27 pm
HENJOHN wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:11 pm It's easy to pick out the downside of someone's first season which seems to be a calling for some. There's some positive results and contributions from this Staff coming into a sliding program as well. Success or Fail for Coach Carty and his staff, it's just been one flipping season so let's try and give this group a chance and see where it takes us.
Agree HJ. Hopefully we don’t get a thread after every game this year nit picking what went wrong, including the one where we knocked off an FBS and put up 56 en route to our first fall playoff win in over a decade.
A salute to both of you!
What’s his name
What’s his name
A3FA2779-2EC9-4626-A882-5EA9E0CD94BC.jpeg (890.86 KiB) Viewed 570 times
Last edited by Caribbean Hen on Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
recruiting recruiting recruiting...It ain't rocket science....We need better more athletic players...That simple....

posted by Joe C December 10th, 2019
User avatar
Cluck U
Posts: 10107
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:44 pm
UD Class: 0
Location: Blue Hen Country!

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Cluck U »

Henzone wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:51 pm
hensfan40yrs wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:23 am
Cluck U wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:37 am The QBs will be running (not just for their lives).

Carty football.
(not just for their lives) will be a huge positive. The bad road losses of the past hopefully are over?
Does Carty football include being 8th in the CAA in 2022 4th down conversions or is it more like the defensive struggles of 2007?

"After four and one-half hours, 118 points, and 1,044 total yards, No. 9 Richmond (8-2, 6-1 CAA) finally survived with a 62-56 victory when Josh Vaughan scored on a 13-yard run to open the fifth overtime period and the Spiders then held the No. 6 Fightin' Blue Hens on downs."
What a simple-minded post. :lol:

Carty was as responsible for 2007's defense as he was for our Hens defensive collapse in 1999 against Villanova (a 51-44 loss). Carty came to see a Hens' home game that year (true story).

Carty also wasn't responsible for our Hens defense making bad headlines at the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/1986/12/07/spor ... state.html) in our 1986 55-14 cave-in against Arkansas St, our 52-18 defense getting obliterated against McNeese in 1995, or our follow up 59-14 embarrassment against Marshall in 1996. Hoo-boy, we really knew how to bow out of playoffs games...and we really knew how to give up points.

On the other hand, those complete collapses are proof positive that one can make the Hall of Fame with some bad seasons and embarrassing results.

So, even after not doing well on 4th downs, Carty is still the winningest Blue Hen football coach after any coach completing their first year. And heck...Carty already has two national championships (with KC Keeler) at this level. Tubby, after trying and failing for over 20 years, never got a championship at this level, and isn't ever catching Carty on those stats and accomplishments.

But, enough about the past...time to look forward.

August 31st...time to watch Carty's 9th win as a Blue Hen football coach. :D
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS

Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
User avatar
Henzone
Posts: 12439
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:42 am

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Henzone »

Udforever1 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:27 pm
HENJOHN wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:11 pm It's easy to pick out the downside of someone's first season which seems to be a calling for some. There's some positive results and contributions from this Staff coming into a sliding program as well. Success or Fail for Coach Carty and his staff, it's just been one flipping season so let's try and give this group a chance and see where it takes us.
Agree HJ. Hopefully we don’t get a thread after every game this year nit picking what went wrong, including the one where we knocked off an FBS and put up 56 en route to our first fall playoff win in over a decade.
Nitpicking at Navy is an OC who goes 3 for 16 on 3rd and 4th downs.???? RC, the coach, got an impressive win . RC the OC was way over his head.

This board has become a real winery .
Image
Udforever1
Recruiting Specialist
Recruiting Specialist
Posts: 3218
Joined: Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:21 pm
UD Class: 1900

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Udforever1 »

Henzone wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:14 pm
Udforever1 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:27 pm
HENJOHN wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:11 pm It's easy to pick out the downside of someone's first season which seems to be a calling for some. There's some positive results and contributions from this Staff coming into a sliding program as well. Success or Fail for Coach Carty and his staff, it's just been one flipping season so let's try and give this group a chance and see where it takes us.
Agree HJ. Hopefully we don’t get a thread after every game this year nit picking what went wrong, including the one where we knocked off an FBS and put up 56 en route to our first fall playoff win in over a decade.
Nitpicking at Navy is an OC who goes 3 for 16 on 3rd and 4th downs.???? RC, the coach, got an impressive win . RC the OC was way over his head.

This board has become a real winery .
It’s just funny how not one of those threads was posted the prior decade. But hey, you tell us you like Carty so I guess we should believe you.
User avatar
Caribbean Hen
Posts: 11874
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:07 am
UD Class: 2024
Location: San Juan Puerto Rico

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Caribbean Hen »

Henzone wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:14 pm
Udforever1 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:27 pm
HENJOHN wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:11 pm It's easy to pick out the downside of someone's first season which seems to be a calling for some. There's some positive results and contributions from this Staff coming into a sliding program as well. Success or Fail for Coach Carty and his staff, it's just been one flipping season so let's try and give this group a chance and see where it takes us.
Agree HJ. Hopefully we don’t get a thread after every game this year nit picking what went wrong, including the one where we knocked off an FBS and put up 56 en route to our first fall playoff win in over a decade.
Nitpicking at Navy is an OC who goes 3 for 16 on 3rd and 4th downs.???? RC, the coach, got an impressive win . RC the OC was way over his head.

This board has become a real winery .
or sour grapes
recruiting recruiting recruiting...It ain't rocket science....We need better more athletic players...That simple....

posted by Joe C December 10th, 2019
User avatar
Henzone
Posts: 12439
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:42 am

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Henzone »

Udforever1 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:29 pm
Henzone wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:14 pm
Udforever1 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:27 pm

Agree HJ. Hopefully we don’t get a thread after every game this year nit picking what went wrong, including the one where we knocked off an FBS and put up 56 en route to our first fall playoff win in over a decade.
Nitpicking at Navy is an OC who goes 3 for 16 on 3rd and 4th downs.???? RC, the coach, got an impressive win . RC the OC was way over his head.

This board has become a real winery .
It’s just funny how not one of those threads was posted the prior decade. But hey, you tell us you like Carty so I guess we should believe you.
I didn't have any problem suggesting Brock's dismissal or Rocco's boredom or even KC's act in the past and I have no problem suggesting that Ryan needs to step up in year 2.
Last edited by Henzone on Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
Cluck U
Posts: 10107
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:44 pm
UD Class: 0
Location: Blue Hen Country!

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Cluck U »

Udforever1 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:29 pm
It’s just funny how not one of those threads was posted the prior decade. But hey, you tell us you like Carty so I guess we should believe you.
You are correct, Udf1…odd how there were zero nit picking threads from Henzone Boy (how original was his personal attack… :lol: ) (you know, the personal attacks that aren’t allowed) during Delaware Football’s Lost Decade of the Brocco twins. And, surprise…no reflections back to nit pick Tubby’s many inadequacies during 2-plus decades of failing to put a championship team on the field.

Hey, let’s critique why those coaches failed to reach the top over and over. Poor recruiting. Poor coaching. Poor play calling. Poor leadership in the heat of the moment.

Had to be something wrong if you can’t get the job done. But…not a word about those failures.

Nope…can’t criticize certain coaches.

Suggesting Brock leaving? Only after the writing was on the wall (and only after he listened to the rest of us). And only after droning on about the splendid new program builder and demanding everyone have patience. Doing it the right way. :lol: :lol:

And Rocco’s boring play? How about round two of program building nonsense, more patience and more doing things the right way. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Only then did our slow-to-learn, keen-eyed observer realize how foolish his statements were…so he turned tail to be on the right side of history.

But the silly, bitter, small-minded criticisms of Carty and Keeler are non-stop.

Can’t make this stuff up. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Carty is going to get us another winning season. Hmmm…just another new milestone for our new coach.

Love it!

Win, Carty! Win!
Tubby: 3 national titles, one won on the field, all D2
Keeler: 3 national titles, all won on the field, one as a player, two as a coach, 1 D2, 2 FCS
Carty: 2 on-field national titles, one as a player, one as an OC, both FCS

Carty - get an FBS bowl win!
CaliHen98
Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:25 pm
UD Class: 1998

Re: Stony Brook

Post by CaliHen98 »

AMEN, Cluck!!!
Hens79
Posts: 4871
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:23 am
UD Class: 0
Location: Newark, DE

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Hens79 »

Alex, can I have bitter, lonely, attention seeking old men with a grudge for $1000 please.

And oh yeah, the Hens better and will beat SB to open the season.
Udforever1
Recruiting Specialist
Recruiting Specialist
Posts: 3218
Joined: Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:21 pm
UD Class: 1900

Re: Stony Brook

Post by Udforever1 »

Henzone wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:01 pm
Udforever1 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:29 pm
Henzone wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:14 pm

Nitpicking at Navy is an OC who goes 3 for 16 on 3rd and 4th downs.???? RC, the coach, got an impressive win . RC the OC was way over his head.

This board has become a real winery .
It’s just funny how not one of those threads was posted the prior decade. But hey, you tell us you like Carty so I guess we should believe you.
I didn't have any problem suggesting Brock's dismissal or Rocco's boredom or even KC's act in the past and I have no problem suggesting that Ryan needs to step up in year 2.
No need to edit the first one, I can take it. Sorry I struck a nerve. Look I honestly could care less whether people like Carty or not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that’s the point of a message board, but the fairness, or lack there of, has been noticeable since he arrived compared to the prior two coaches. That’s all.
Post Reply