When will College Football resume? Links and references.

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Re: When will College Football resume? Links and references.

Post by jd of de » Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:10 am

At Least 30 LSU Football Players Quarantined Due to COVID-19 Outbreak

https://www.si.com/college/2020/06/20/l ... oronavirus

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Post by gregsm » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:28 am

Re: When will College Football resume? Links and references.
Post by wacko4flacco » Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:45 am

I have zero expectation of football until 2021.

I would agree with your statement of 2021 for football. I would say all sports except for golf, and horse racing will not take place until next year.

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Post by tenn hen » Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:50 am

gregsm wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:28 am
Re: When will College Football resume? Links and references.
Post by wacko4flacco » Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:45 am

I have zero expectation of football until 2021.

I would agree with your statement of 2021 for football. I would say all sports except for golf, and horse racing will not take place until next year.
tennis anyone! ping pong et al. :roll:
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Post by 77HEN » Sun Jun 21, 2020 12:20 pm

tenn hen wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:50 am
gregsm wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:28 am
Re: When will College Football resume? Links and references.
Post by wacko4flacco » Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:45 am

I have zero expectation of football until 2021.

I would agree with your statement of 2021 for football. I would say all sports except for golf, and horse racing will not take place until next year.
tennis anyone! ping pong et al. :roll:
Yes, tennis is a good sport for the times. USTA announced a few days ago the US Open will go on but with no fans in the stands.

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Post by Hensfansince03 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:01 pm

It would be impossible to have any sports if the goal is to have 0 athletes infected even with a vaccine.

Headline
30 players test positive.

Not reported
0 will die or even end up in the hospital.

Its like trying to have a season without any players getting the common cold or the flu. Impossible. The disease will never 100% go away or even have 0 deaths even with a vaccine. At what point does common sense prevail and we move on with our lives? How many players annually get the flu during the season? Yet we do not shut it down.
jd of de wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:10 am
At Least 30 LSU Football Players Quarantined Due to COVID-19 Outbreak

https://www.si.com/college/2020/06/20/l ... oronavirus

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Post by Info Hound » Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:34 pm

Here is an excerpt from the Wall Street Journal, which in my mind, puts our season in doubt:

The Virus Is Still Winning. Sports May Have to Wait.
The surge of coronavirus cases in key states, and a flood of positive tests for athletes returning to work, could spoil plans for a sports restart.

Last week, the Philadelphia Phillies shut down their spring-training facility in Clearwater, Fla., after eight people—five players and three staff members—tested positive for Covid-19.

By Ben Cohen, Joshua Robinson and Laine Higgins
June 21, 2020 10:00 am ET

Hundreds of college football players have tested positive since returning to campus for practice. Major League Baseball and NHL teams closed their facilities after detecting outbreaks. And the entire NBA is relocating to a part of Florida that is rapidly emerging as a hot spot.

Sports are trying to stage a comeback. The virus is still winning.

The increasing cases and skyrocketing percentages of positive tests over the past week in populous states have made it clear that a microscopic pathogen that paralyzed American life is not under control in the U.S.—and the return of sports might have to wait until the coronavirus is contained.

It has been three months since sports came to a screeching halt, and what started as a public-health crisis quickly spiraled into an economic calamity. The leagues are bleeding money and, with a nudge from the White House, scrambling to resume their seasons. But even as they have inched back to restarting, the pandemic keeps reminding them why play stopped.

“I think it’s going to be a huge challenge,” said Ashish Jha, the director of the Harvard Global Health Institute.

He said he was particularly concerned by the states with high rates of infection that are still climbing, including Arizona, California, Florida, Texas and the Carolinas. Those states that have reopened also happen to be hubs of college and professional sports—which is one reason that sports in 2020 have become imperiled again.
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Post by 00bluehen » Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:22 pm

Leave it to the WSJ to post actual common sense about sports.

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Post by BlueHenBill » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:49 am

Hensfansince03 wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:01 pm
It would be impossible to have any sports if the goal is to have 0 athletes infected even with a vaccine.

Headline
30 players test positive.

Not reported
0 will die or even end up in the hospital.

Its like trying to have a season without any players getting the common cold or the flu. Impossible. The disease will never 100% go away or even have 0 deaths even with a vaccine. At what point does common sense prevail and we move on with our lives? How many players annually get the flu during the season? Yet we do not shut it down.
jd of de wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:10 am
At Least 30 LSU Football Players Quarantined Due to COVID-19 Outbreak

https://www.si.com/college/2020/06/20/l ... oronavirus
Henfansince03, When will you and the too many folks like you get it? Young people lacking any underlying health conditions are unlikely to die, but in the re-opened states (mostly in the South & West) where new covid-19 cases have recently exploded, young people reportedly constitute the highest percentage of recent hospital admissions. Most important, however, is that you want to keep the new cases to a minimum because those folks (young and/or without symptoms) will infect many others (including loved ones) who are at greater risk of hospitalization and/or death. This would also make covid-19 more prevalent and durable within the US population for a longer period of time with the additonal result that our society/economy will continually cycle through massive shutdowns, reopenings, and shutdowns again. It also means few (if any) sports and probably no college sports or even student in person attendance at college.

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Post by Hensfansince03 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:38 pm

Massive Shutdowns will not stop the virus. It will only slow it. Flattening the curve was about slowing the spread not stopping the spread.

The younger populations in the hospital have been reported by the media in the last few days with no stats or sources.

If you want to see college or professional sports ever again realize athletes are going to become infected with the virus just like the cold or flu. This will go on indefinitely.

Watch Florida. The news is reporting cases through the roof in the state however the death trend has actually slightly declined since April. This is going to be the case study with the news media going against the governor. Looks like Florida is trying heard immunity with the young while protecting the high risk populations. Makes more sense in the long run with building immunity which is the only long term solution to the virus.

In the end we will have sports again. Capitalism will win. University's need the money from sports. Rob Ambrose from Towson was on our local news last night. Said that he expects the season to be played and the schedule kept as it, the question is will fans be allowed and if so in what capacity.

If this happens the question becomes how many teams are going to lose games when star players get infected and are forced to quarantine and not play for 2 weeks? Are teams and training staffs going to have to put in aggressive protocols for testing? What happens if a team lies about someone being infected to keep them on the field? How does the NCAA regulate this? Is managing COVID is going to become just as important as creating the weekly game plans.

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Post by 77HEN » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:00 pm

They're going to need a real plan that forsees a lot of the issues and gives guidelines. The tennis pros were playing a small tournament in the front of crowds in Croatia and moving along. The final was set between Djokovic and a Russian named Rublev when it was reported a player knocked out the day before (Bulgarian Dimitrov) tested positive for the CV. Just minutes before the final, the tournament announced it was cancelled. If you're going to do it, you need sound planning with commitment that doesn't fall apart on the last bit of bad news.

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Post by tenn hen » Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:22 pm

Here's some food for thought about the new normal of football( frankly maybe any sport)- Have AUCTIONS for a limited # of tickets to each game/event. Some of the sale's proceeds might even go towards a charity. Obviously there would need to be some sort of liability forms signed and checked by photo ID in order for those winners to enter the stadium. Those in charge would decide on the placements of the seats before the auction thereby creating a greater chance for maximum revenue for the best seats in the house. It might look like a White House press conference( do they still hold them?), but at least there would be a decent # of fans. Capitalism at its prime- Demand would exceed supply :)

Just brainstorming, but with competent administration, it might work as a compromise between safety and the chance to be "live" at the competition.
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Post by Hens79 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:51 pm

00bluehen wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:22 pm
Leave it to the WSJ to post actual common sense about sports.
Ain’t the world upside down 00? And the folks on the other side of the argument are still comparing a virus that has killed over 122,000 in less than four months to a cold or the flu. Phew!!! We are all going to have to live with the reality of the virus for the foreseeable future and adjust our lives accordingly. Some will adjust and accept more and some less. But you gotta start from a baseline of reality and facts. The comparison to a cold, the straw man of there will never be zero deaths, and blaming the media don’t help and actually hurt going forward. I want more than anyone to be tailgating and in the stands at a Hens game this fall. But it doesn’t look like it will happen. Even if it does or doesn’t, life will go on.

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Post by 00bluehen » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:57 am

77HEN wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:00 pm
They're going to need a real plan that forsees a lot of the issues and gives guidelines. The tennis pros were playing a small tournament in the front of crowds in Croatia and moving along. The final was set between Djokovic and a Russian named Rublev when it was reported a player knocked out the day before (Bulgarian Dimitrov) tested positive for the CV. Just minutes before the final, the tournament announced it was cancelled. If you're going to do it, you need sound planning with commitment that doesn't fall apart on the last bit of bad news.
Djokovic, himself, has now also tested positive for SARS-CoV-2...

https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/ ... oronavirus

I agree with the concerns offered up at the end of HFS03's last post...I, too, wonder what the fallout would be if 1 single college football player (across all divisions) were to contract the virus and die or be chronically disabled (in a way that would cost them future NFL paychecks) from it. What's the liability look like? Is the NCAA potentially at risk, themselves? I don't mean to be hyperbolic or fear-mongering with that, but you have to think that crisis situations are being considered by decision-makers...

Maybe we are going to lump COVID-19 in with concussions, paralysis, or other risks of playing sports anymore. Something just feels different about the potentially mitigated risks of this virus, though...

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Post by 77HEN » Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:39 am

00bluehen wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:57 am
77HEN wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:00 pm
They're going to need a real plan that forsees a lot of the issues and gives guidelines. The tennis pros were playing a small tournament in the front of crowds in Croatia and moving along. The final was set between Djokovic and a Russian named Rublev when it was reported a player knocked out the day before (Bulgarian Dimitrov) tested positive for the CV. Just minutes before the final, the tournament announced it was cancelled. If you're going to do it, you need sound planning with commitment that doesn't fall apart on the last bit of bad news.
Djokovic, himself, has now also tested positive for SARS-CoV-2...

https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/ ... oronavirus

I agree with the concerns offered up at the end of HFS03's last post...I, too, wonder what the fallout would be if 1 single college football player (across all divisions) were to contract the virus and die or be chronically disabled (in a way that would cost them future NFL paychecks) from it. What's the liability look like? Is the NCAA potentially at risk, themselves? I don't mean to be hyperbolic or fear-mongering with that, but you have to think that crisis situations are being considered by decision-makers...

Maybe we are going to lump COVID-19 in with concussions, paralysis, or other risks of playing sports anymore. Something just feels different about the potentially mitigated risks of this virus, though...
Not a surprise. Djokovic had posted pics of his wife and himself out on the town with the other top players and their partners at the tournament. The German player Zverrev should test postiive also. I really don't think FB will happen on college campuses, UM just cancelled hosting a presidential debate citing "health reasons and the complexity of maintaining a safe environment". Maybe the universities should transition to safer entertainment like cow tipping or other types of tipping. Large crowds seem to get a good rise over those types of activities.

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