Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

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Re: Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

Post by jd of de » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:00 pm

BlueHenBill wrote:
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UConn's recent commitment to the Big East eliminates any chance Delaware and UConn will be conference mates again.

And UMass' commitment to the A10 eliminate any chance Delaware and UMass will be conference mates unless Delaware too sends football the FBS Independent route as well while joining the A10 for all other sports.

Basketball money won out for both UConn and UMass.
Why could't a new realignment be similar to the CAA where some schools are FB only members and others are members for all sports? That would allow for example UConn to stay in the BE and UMAss in the A10 for all sports other than FB. If determined necessary, desirable, & possible, UD might alos have the option to move only FB into one conferrnece with the other sports in another conference.
If that was desirable to university presidents UMass would still be in the MAC. But it's not. The easiest move for Delaware is joining the A10 and sending football the independent route as well; but the easy move isn't usually the right move.

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Re: Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

Post by Udforever1 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:14 pm

https://www.dnronline.com/news/coronavi ... 2b293.html

Some interesting comments and potential options in this article.

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Re: Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

Post by Henny » Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:44 pm

I think the folks in Harrisonburg better worry about their students coming back given their heavy reliance on student fees. Probably not the time for big talk of FBS for JMU.

That said, regional conferences makes sense on so many fronts and UD is well positioned for possible changes.
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Re: Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

Post by jd of de » Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:10 am

Henny wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:44 pm
I think the folks in Harrisonburg better worry about their students coming back given their heavy reliance on student fees. Probably not the time for big talk of FBS for JMU.

That said, regional conferences makes sense on so many fronts and UD is well positioned for possible changes.
Out of curiosity I looked up the current JMU student fee that directly supports athletics ... $2,058 per full-time student' ... kinda hard to charge that when there is only online learning. https://www.jmu.edu/ubo/rates-breakdown.shtml

UD's coaching staffs and the athletic department support and marketing look a lot more like A-10 programs than they did 5 years ago.

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Re: Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

Post by Udforever1 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:21 am

jd of de wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:10 am
Henny wrote:
Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:44 pm
I think the folks in Harrisonburg better worry about their students coming back given their heavy reliance on student fees. Probably not the time for big talk of FBS for JMU.

That said, regional conferences makes sense on so many fronts and UD is well positioned for possible changes.
Out of curiosity I looked up the current JMU student fee that directly supports athletics ... $2,058 per full-time student' ... kinda hard to charge that when there is only online learning. https://www.jmu.edu/ubo/rates-breakdown.shtml

UD's coaching staffs and the athletic department support and marketing look a lot more like A-10 programs than they did 5 years ago.
Which is where we should be.

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Re: Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

Post by BlueHenBobby » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:25 am

This has been a thought provoking subject. Good, interesting conversation. No doubt the current COVID crisis will drive a lot of change in both the educational process on campuses as well as athletics on campus. The prospect that there may not be a college football season at all and the impact of that on how college football is financed and organized is quite interesting. What will be the impact on the number of actual "brick and mortar" institutions? Maybe an overall downsizing in number and size and some colleges shedding athletic programs and realigning competition to cut costs. It's hard to look at P5 schools and not ask the question "where has all the money they made gone?". Their scramble for money appears to have now made them vulnerable. The move upward by schools like JMU certainly appears to be more difficult and even riskier until all of this shakes out. Geographic based conferences would certainly help.

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Post by DCHen97 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:27 am

[quote=BlueHenBobby post_id=373501 time=1587129955 user_id=26829]
This has been a thought provoking subject. Good, interesting conversation. No doubt the current COVID crisis will drive a lot of change in both the educational process on campuses as well as athletics on campus. The prospect that there may not be a college football season at all and the impact of that on how college football is financed and organized is quite interesting. What will be the impact on the number of actual "brick and mortar" institutions? Maybe an overall downsizing in number and size and some colleges shedding athletic programs and realigning competition to cut costs. It's hard to look at P5 schools and not ask the question "where has all the money they made gone?". Their scramble for money appears to have now made them vulnerable. The move upward by schools like JMU certainly appears to be more difficult and even riskier until all of this shakes out. Geographic based conferences would certainly help.
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A little more to consider on the COVID impacts. Until there is a vaccine, what are stadiums going to look like? Seating in every other row if spectators are allowed? Fans have to be masked? Even half-full stadiums aren't going to alleviate all these funding concerns.

I have heard that theater seating for movies and plays may not be the same for a while. Seating of only 2s and 4s spread out.

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Post by BlueHenBobby » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:23 pm

At this point I don't think any of us want to be the guinea pigs who test the effectiveness of any kind of seating changes in stadiums, movie theaters, restaurants. My opinion- football is done for this fall. The NFL will push to open (being the money grubbers they are) even if there are no fans. In a contact sport with even a few hundred people on the sidelines and all of those people returning home after the game, I'm struggling to understand how they can stop viral transmission both on the field and at home. All of the PCR tests can have dead spots where the virus might not be detected. At this point the antibody test is still being developed and they are not even sure how long immunity lasts. Wouldn't be much of a team if only players with demonstrated immunity can play.

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Post by bluehenbillk » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:00 pm

UConn President today said today that fall sports will likely to be cancelled.


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BREAKING: UConn Pres. Tom Katsouleas says that fall sports will likely be cancelled.

"Current thinking is that likely fall sports will be cancelled - with the exception of those that can be played at a safe distance”.

The Pres. spoke to a UConn Journalism class moments ago.


Then he clarified:

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told a #UConn journalism class today that decisions on fall sports would be made w/ NCAA, our conference, state govt & related authorities. UConn fall sports are NOT CANCELED. He said it's likely ONLY if current conditions persist.
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Either way I'd bet no fall college football & the NFL will attempt a go with empty stands.
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Post by BlueHenBobby » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:41 pm

There may be a way for the NFL to play to empty stadiums if there is some kind of miracle breakthrough in testing, a vaccine or treatment. Not impossible but not likely. Otherwise the only way I see it happening is to test players prior to training camp and isolate everyone (and I mean everyone) from contacting the players, coaches, trainers etc. from training camp to the end of the season. Like I said, unless there is a breakthrough.

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Re: Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

Post by bluehenbillk » Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:13 pm

UD is looking at a $65M loss due to the pandemic. Assanis said today with hard core cost cutting measures best case they could get it to as little as $50M.

Secondly the CAA, A-10 and Big East are talking about regional scheduling in all secondary sports to cut costs (assuming all but football and basketball).
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Re: Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

Post by jd of de » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:05 am

It’s a safe bet Chrissi, Jordan and staff will be told they need to raise 100% of the funds for future athletics infrastructure, likely for a number of years.
The university also released a list of additional measures to save money: 

No new construction projects will be approved. Campus projects currently under construction will continue. Projects paid for by external funds, like the university’s FinTech building, are an exception when it comes to new approval. 
It's also a safe bet the $120m UD receives from the state, or at least some portion of it, can also be added to the $50m-$65m in expected revenue
losses. Plus the expected dip in new enrollments I think we will see this fall.

A combined $100m-$110m in lost revenue, not out of the question, would represent a 10% hit to gross revenues for UD.

https://cpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/sites.ude ... re_CFS.pdf

The donor restrictions on the UD financial statement is the endowment; donors give money but also have said how and where it can be used.

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Re: Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

Post by Gannonfan » Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:10 am

With the endowment, is there a similar thing to a force majure that would allow an entity like a university to disregard the donor's instructions in time of sever financial peril?
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Re: Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

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Gannonfan wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:10 am
With the endowment, is there a similar thing to a force majure that would allow an entity like a university to disregard the donor's instructions in time of sever financial peril?
Highly doubtful BUT donors could be contacted and asked permission to utilize their gifts in a different manner.

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Re: Hero Sports realignment article has UD in the American

Post by jd of de » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:29 pm

Gannonfan wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:10 am
With the endowment, is there a similar thing to a force majure that would allow an entity like a university to disregard the donor's instructions in time of sever financial peril?
No and you wouldn't hope for that either. Athletics would be the first place getting robbed (diverted).

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