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Pro Day

Post by HenZoneNation » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:47 pm

March 22...

https://twitter.com/delawarefb/status/1 ... 01600?s=21

This should be, by far, the most interesting Pro Day UD has ever had. Aside from Adderley who has a real shot of going in the 1st round, you have guys like Charles Scarff and Troy Reeder who are not projected to get drafted but have gotten enough attention that most of this draft sites have said they’ll make a team as an UDFA. Maybe this gets them drafted. I bet Troy comes in Beast Mode.

Then you have guys like Joe Walker (who I personally believe will not only get an invite to a camp but will make a PS if not an active roster) and Vinny Papale who have gotten some attention as well. With every team predicted to be there all you have do is get the interest of one team.

Then you have guys like Buck, Beh, Malcolm Brown, and Farinella...should be a fun day.
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Re: Pro Day

Post by HENJOHN » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:02 pm

Farinella now coming back apparently with a Medical waiver

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Re: Pro Day

Post by Henzone » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:06 pm

HenZoneNation wrote:March 22...

https://twitter.com/delawarefb/status/1 ... 01600?s=21

This should be, by far, the most interesting Pro Day UD has ever had. Aside from Adderley who has a real shot of going in the 1st round, you have guys like Charles Scarff and Troy Reeder who are not projected to get drafted but have gotten enough attention that most of this draft sites have said they’ll make a team as an UDFA. Maybe this gets them drafted. I bet Troy comes in Beast Mode.

Then you have guys like Joe Walker (who I personally believe will not only get an invite to a camp but will make a PS if not an active roster) and Vinny Papale who have gotten some attention as well. With every team predicted to be there all you have do is get the interest of one team.

Then you have guys like Buck, Beh, Malcolm Brown, and Farinella...should be a fun day.
Where did all this talent come from? :lol:
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Re: Pro Day

Post by HenZoneNation » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:50 pm

Henzone wrote:
HenZoneNation wrote:March 22...

https://twitter.com/delawarefb/status/1 ... 01600?s=21

This should be, by far, the most interesting Pro Day UD has ever had. Aside from Adderley who has a real shot of going in the 1st round, you have guys like Charles Scarff and Troy Reeder who are not projected to get drafted but have gotten enough attention that most of this draft sites have said they’ll make a team as an UDFA. Maybe this gets them drafted. I bet Troy comes in Beast Mode.

Then you have guys like Joe Walker (who I personally believe will not only get an invite to a camp but will make a PS if not an active roster) and Vinny Papale who have gotten some attention as well. With every team predicted to be there all you have do is get the interest of one team.

Where was it the last two years? :lol: :lol: (just so you know I'm kidding)...kinda.

Then you have guys like Buck, Beh, Malcolm Brown, and Farinella...should be a fun day.
Where did all this talent come from? :lol:
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Re: Pro Day

Post by hoopster » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:39 am

Henzone wrote:
HenZoneNation wrote:March 22...

https://twitter.com/delawarefb/status/1 ... 01600?s=21

This should be, by far, the most interesting Pro Day UD has ever had. Aside from Adderley who has a real shot of going in the 1st round, you have guys like Charles Scarff and Troy Reeder who are not projected to get drafted but have gotten enough attention that most of this draft sites have said they’ll make a team as an UDFA. Maybe this gets them drafted. I bet Troy comes in Beast Mode.

Then you have guys like Joe Walker (who I personally believe will not only get an invite to a camp but will make a PS if not an active roster) and Vinny Papale who have gotten some attention as well. With every team predicted to be there all you have do is get the interest of one team.

Then you have guys like Buck, Beh, Malcolm Brown, and Farinella...should be a fun day.
Where did all this talent come from? :lol:
Too bad it didn't translate into playoff wins. :roll:
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Re: Pro Day

Post by Henzone » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:56 am

Hoop- That's on Rocco as it was Brock. My point is and always has been that we've had the talent to win playoff games for some time. People who disliked Brock couldn't tolerate that he was a good recruiter yet failure as a head coach. Thus my comment . Rocco even acknowledged he inherited the talent and I believe that 2018 was one of the most underachieving teams I've seen. Danny dumped our OC and vowed to adjust the D moving forward so let's hope that will create the momentum and culture we need for consistent winning. Patience is the word moving forward but we need to see continued improvement throughout the season and into the playoffs.
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Re: Pro Day

Post by UDFootballFan » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:50 am

So much wasted talent...I can only imagine how good [almost great] WR Walker would be if he had 3 years as WR instead of 1-2.

I am excited for this group and for Delaware to get put back on the map.

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Re: Pro Day

Post by Hens79 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:31 am

hoopster wrote:
Henzone wrote:
HenZoneNation wrote:March 22...

https://twitter.com/delawarefb/status/1 ... 01600?s=21

This should be, by far, the most interesting Pro Day UD has ever had. Aside from Adderley who has a real shot of going in the 1st round, you have guys like Charles Scarff and Troy Reeder who are not projected to get drafted but have gotten enough attention that most of this draft sites have said they’ll make a team as an UDFA. Maybe this gets them drafted. I bet Troy comes in Beast Mode.

Then you have guys like Joe Walker (who I personally believe will not only get an invite to a camp but will make a PS if not an active roster) and Vinny Papale who have gotten some attention as well. With every team predicted to be there all you have do is get the interest of one team.

Then you have guys like Buck, Beh, Malcolm Brown, and Farinella...should be a fun day.
Where did all this talent come from? :lol:
Too bad it didn't translate into playoff wins. :roll:
Of course you are right hoop and so is UDFF about wasted talent. And so is Henzone when he said it was on Rocco and Brock. After all, they are/were the head coaches.

Winning, what really matters, means you don't have to make excuses about not winning or adding ... but, but ... they did other things well or continuously call for patience.

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Re: Pro Day

Post by Baltimore Hen » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:04 pm

Henzone wrote:Hoop- That's on Rocco as it was Brock. My point is and always has been that we've had the talent to win playoff games for some time. People who disliked Brock couldn't tolerate that he was a good recruiter yet failure as a head coach. Thus my comment . Rocco even acknowledged he inherited the talent and I believe that 2018 was one of the most underachieving teams I've seen. Danny dumped our OC and vowed to adjust the D moving forward so let's hope that will create the momentum and culture we need for consistent winning. Patience is the word moving forward but we need to see continued improvement throughout the season and into the playoffs.
A restaurateur of a 5 star restaurant does not need to be the BEST chef, but he needs to buy the best food and have top caliber Executive chef's, sous chef's, line cooks, etc to prepare the food for customers....

A head coach should be the BEST recruiter on staff. He should be the one who enters the room and seals the deal. But he does not need to be the BEST coach......In football there are SOOOOOO many assistants, the Head coach is less important in x's and o's than other sports like say, basketball, baseball, lax, soccer, etc......What makes a great HC, in my opinion, is his ability to seal the deal in signing top recruits (buying the groceries), and hiring coordinators and position coaches who are excellent X and O guys. Alabama is not great because Saban is the best X and O coach. They are great because Saban seals the deal on top recruiits and surrounds himself with high caliber high achieving coaches. How many former HCs does he bring on when they are looking for a job? Brock's fatal flaw was the staff he surrounded himself with!
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Re: Pro Day

Post by HenZoneNation » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:36 pm

I was never a Brock guy even before he became our HC but I never doubted his passion for the program nor the way he conducted himself during and after he was HC. Judging by players reactions to him on twitter feeds and the opinions of his character that people on this board who had direct interactions with him have said, he was a good guy in over his head. He did recruit well...at certain positions, and no so well at others up too and including the most important positions the QB. I think the narrative has softened some with time but let's not forget how critical he was of Keeler's "imbalanced rosters' which lacked depth and relied on tranfers (betting the fan base couldn't name 10 transfers...that was just a bad look) and then have the exact same issues three full cycles after he arrived. Tossing away the 2015 season in 2013 probably wasn't the best move either but hey...his prediction came true. His staff performed poorly but they were his staff and he did a poor job of holding them accountable and I can't remember him ever out coaching a team that was significantly better than we were You add in the fact that he recruited small, light OL but then tried to pound the ball on the ground with a one dimensional offense and it's not hard to see why he failed.

That being said, HZ is 100% correct...this might be the most underperforming group of players that I have ever seen since I started following UD football. On an individual basis, we saw some of the best players at their perspective positions, that Delaware has ever had. On top of that we had a Senior led group which you think would sure up any players not going along with the program or who are not performing. I really am baffled as to what happened last year as I do not see how a team that talented only won seven games and for the second year in a row lost it's last three games. I don't count what we did as making the playoffs. We eeked our way in.

Now to Rocco's credit he has brought in new staff, something Brock refused to do, he has recruited a gem of a class, at least on paper, and most importantly seems to learn from his mistakes...but man his handling of the QB position has been dreadful. This of course might be solved already as I really do believe Henderson is the real deal and much like Brock, Rocco sees the value in keeping the elite homegrown talent home. I want to see what the roster looks like in the summer before I pass judgement on this season...

That being said, this is going to be a pretty crazy Pro-Day.
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Re: Pro Day

Post by finpxz1 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:29 pm

The common denominator for the past 6 or 7 years has been inconsistent (and that’s being kind) QB play. Until we solve that issue, this team will continue to “underperform”. It’s really that simple. Hoping Henderson can be he answer, but time will tell.

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Re: Pro Day

Post by 72 Hen » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:42 pm

Recruiting quality athletes is the first step. Player development is the second step. Coaching them in the right system is the final key to success. IMO, we are starting to put it all together.
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Re: Pro Day

Post by joe c » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:48 pm

72 Hen wrote:Recruiting quality athletes is the first step. Player development is the second step. Coaching them in the right system is the final key to success. IMO, we are starting to put it all together.
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Re: Pro Day

Post by Gannonfan » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:02 pm

Henzone wrote:Hoop- That's on Rocco as it was Brock. My point is and always has been that we've had the talent to win playoff games for some time. People who disliked Brock couldn't tolerate that he was a good recruiter yet failure as a head coach. Thus my comment . Rocco even acknowledged he inherited the talent and I believe that 2018 was one of the most underachieving teams I've seen. Danny dumped our OC and vowed to adjust the D moving forward so let's hope that will create the momentum and culture we need for consistent winning. Patience is the word moving forward but we need to see continued improvement throughout the season and into the playoffs.
The only thing that really matters as a head coach is to have a winning program that doesn't break the rules (cheating, bad people, etc). That's it. Being good at a subset of that (recruiting for instance) while failing at historic proportions with regards to the ultimate measure of winning only results in the coach being fired, which is what happened.

As for patience, this is a program that should be in the playoffs every year. That's always been the marker of a good versus a not good season, and it will be the case again this year. Plenty of reasons to be optimistic that they can make the playoffs this year.
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