Rough start in Denver for Flacco

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Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by dovetail » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:13 am

Broncs now 0-4. The once heralded defense of Denver is a memory. Twice in the past two games at Mile-High Flacco gave his team the lead with less than two minutes to go and they lost.

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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by HENJOHN » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:25 am

Once with 36 seconds and once with 1:12 left. Not his fault at all. had 300+ yards and 3 TDs yesterday. Not sure what happened to that DEF of theirs.
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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by Hens79 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:49 am

Their new defense first head coach (story of Joe’s career) may get fired soon. Those home loses were pathetic.

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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by wacko4flacco » Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:32 pm

He gets no respect. He is posting good numbers despite an absolutely awful O line. Gonna be a long year for Joe.
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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by UD '01 grad » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:05 pm

Agree with all. He did have a rough INT when they were driving in first half that led to a Jags field goal, but yes, he's done enough to at least have them 2-2.

Some of their fans seem to think it's a foregone conclusion that he's going to the bench once Drew Lock is off injured list in Week 9. Some also want them to keep tanking for Tua.

Who knows. Still root for him from afar and hope they get some wins soon.

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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by dovetail » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:51 am

As the quarterback game evolves in the NFL there are fewer classic drop back, pocket passers left. Mobility is an asset.

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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by BlueHenBill » Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:59 pm

dovetail wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:51 am
As the quarterback game evolves in the NFL there are fewer classic drop back, pocket passers left. Mobility is an asset.
Until the QB who runs gets hurt.

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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by dovetail » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:05 pm

Bill, I thought that too until I noticed that almost every kid drafted these days can skit. If one gets hurt you put in the next guy. Pocket passers don't seem to have a lot of time to survey the field for open receivers these days. If your'e moving you can buy a few more seconds.

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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by dovetail » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:05 pm

Bill, I thought that too until I noticed that almost every kid drafted these days can skit. If one gets hurt you put in the next guy. Pocket passers don't seem to have a lot of time to survey the field for open receivers these days. If your'e moving you can buy a few more seconds.

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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by BlueHenBill » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:37 pm

dovetail wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:05 pm
Bill, I thought that too until I noticed that almost every kid drafted these days can skit. If one gets hurt you put in the next guy. Pocket passers don't seem to have a lot of time to survey the field for open receivers these days. If your'e moving you can buy a few more seconds.
I agree with you about the QBs who scramble to keep the play alive while they keep their eyes downfield to find & hit the open receiver, although many of them don't have the big arm. My concern is with the QBs who regularly feature runs such as RGIII , Lamar Jackson, etc. QBs who keep doing that aren't going to last long in the NFL.

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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by bct2000 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:16 am

With the way that defenses rush so aggressively on every play, it is very hard to play as a pocket QB. Many defenses blitz on nearly every down, even if the offense tries to have more players in to pass protect, they simply bring more than the offense can block. In today's NFL, the QB has to have mobility to escape the rush. The pure pocket passer is quickly becoming extinct in the NFL because the style of play just doesn't allow it.

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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by Baltimore Hen » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:21 am

bct2000 wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:16 am
With the way that defenses rush so aggressively on every play, it is very hard to play as a pocket QB. Many defenses blitz on nearly every down, even if the offense tries to have more players in to pass protect, they simply bring more than the offense can block. In today's NFL, the QB has to have mobility to escape the rush. The pure pocket passer is quickly becoming extinct in the NFL because the style of play just doesn't allow it.
Yes, But I would also argue that part of it is the college game does not prepare O Line for NFL as much as in the past given that most college offense is very different from the NFL. I believe you are seeing modification of NFL schemes to deal with both the Oline prep and QB products of the new college game.....
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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by Gannonfan » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:20 pm

bct2000 wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:16 am
With the way that defenses rush so aggressively on every play, it is very hard to play as a pocket QB. Many defenses blitz on nearly every down, even if the offense tries to have more players in to pass protect, they simply bring more than the offense can block. In today's NFL, the QB has to have mobility to escape the rush. The pure pocket passer is quickly becoming extinct in the NFL because the style of play just doesn't allow it.
I'm not sure what you define as the pure pocket passer, but QB's in the NFL who really excel are guys who are still hanging in there and looking to throw. You can't be too much of a scrambler or you won't last long in the NFL. You just need enough mobility to shuffle to avoid the rush while keeping the play alive. Like a Brady. Like a Brees. Mahomes will be that type of player too.
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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by UD '01 grad » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:33 pm

Career NFL Passing Yards Leaders (Through Week 6)

18. Kerry Collins ... 40,922
19. Joe Montana ... 40,551
20. Johnny Unitas ... 40,239
21. Matthew Stafford ... 39,913
22. Joe Flacco ... 39,680
23. Dave Krieg ... 38,147

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54. Cam Newton ... 29,041
55. Rich Gannon ... 28,743
56. Len Dawson ... 28,711

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Re: Rough start in Denver for Flacco

Post by dovetail » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:28 am

Actually, after his playoff numbers he is well over 40000 yards.

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