Players Quote

[UDFootballFan]

Not sure if the link will work or not but in this article, one quote caught my eye.

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/2 ... begin-work

The quote is from Logan Schultz. "I had a couple kids I knew from up there, and I heard certain things here and there,” Schultz said. “But I don’t like to listen to what people say. I like to judge the the individual and go from there. And I think the whole team will do that. I’m proud we all have an open mind about it.”

So evidently, some of his friends from Rutgers already gave him the inside on Brock???

Buckle up Football Fans, its going to be a bumpy ride.

Ziady should have went with Cohen...a proven head coach at the 1-AA level.

[hens05alum]

This is some highly thought provoking stuff right here.

One of our defensive role players may or may not be telling us that some people he knows, who may or may not even see the field for Rutgers, or even play on the offensive side of the ball, might have had less than favorable reviews of Brock. Further, we learn that our rostered player is going to keep an open mind, which seems a highly intelligent thing to do since his scholarship likely depends on him working with the new boss.

Anybody ever hear if any of Tubby's or Keeler's former players had any subpar reviews of their coaches? Or for that matter if any 'employer' has ever been disliked by one of their subordinates?

Buckle up everyone keeping an open mind to the new coach! It's about to get stupid ridiculous in here.

[Oldhen]

It's about to get stupid ridiculous in here.

It's actually been stupid ridiculous since Keeler got the old heave-ho.

The next couple of years on this board promise to be nothing short of grotesque.

[mlaxlurker]

This is some highly thought provoking stuff right here.

One of our defensive role players may or may not be telling us that some people he knows, who may or may not even see the field for Rutgers, or even play on the offensive side of the ball, might have had less than favorable reviews of Brock. Further, we learn that our rostered player is going to keep an open mind, which seems a highly intelligent thing to do since his scholarship likely depends on him working with the new boss.

Anybody ever hear if any of Tubby's or Keeler's former players had any subpar reviews of their coaches? Or for that matter if any 'employer' has ever been disliked by one of their subordinates?

Buckle up everyone keeping an open mind to the new coach! It's about to get stupid ridiculous in here.

Yeah, isn't it odd that members of a team who's Offense ranked nearly dead last in every statistical category might have some misgivings about the guy running the offense.

[hens05alum]

Yeah, isn't it odd that members of a team who's Offense ranked nearly dead last in every statistical category might have some misgivings about the guy running the offense.

Actually I find it rather odd that anyone would pay any attention to anything said by those affiliated with Rutgers football. I struggle to find much of anything historically noteworthy about Rutgers major athletics programs other than their consistently pathetic results.

His 18 month stay at Rutgers, or however brief it was, is something I don't personally plan on reading much into.

[mlaxlurker]

His 18 month stay at Rutgers, or however brief it was, is something I don't personally plan on reading much into.

What about if we go back 10 years...can you read anything about his resume from the past decade?

2002 Temple OC: 4-8 (20 points per game)
2003 Temple OC: 1-11 (19 points per game)
2004 Temple OC: 2-9 (21 points per game, head coach fired the next year)
2005 UNC WRs: 5-6
2006 UNC WRS: 3-9 (head coach fired)
2007 KState WRs: 5-7
2008 KState OC: 5-7 (26 points per game, head coach fired)
2009 BC Tight Ends: 8-5
2010 BC Tight Ends: 7-6
2011 BC Tight Ends: 4-8 (head coach fired the next year)

Other than the Offensive debacle at Rutgers last year, looks like for the past decade every head coach he's coached under was either fired, or in the case of Temple and BC fired the year after he left. His offenses average 3 touchdowns a game and his only successful seasons came as a tight ends coach at BC.

[00bluehen]

See, it's really helpful if you exclude 1999-2001 when he served his only major post at an FCS school. It's as cool as excluding the quote from Hurley that basically says we don't know WHAT kind of offense we're going to run--you know, because the coach actually has to evaluate the talent available (implying, in so doing, that the guy is able to mold his offense to suit his talent). Aside from that, averaging 3 TDs a game with some of that slop that was on the field for Temple 2002-2004 ain't bad at all.

The guy's no offensive innovator, but he's hardly been a complete flop in his career. To extrapolate his failure as a head coach based on the above is premature, unfounded, and quite simply, unfair. Give the guy a chance.

[BluehenJK]

See, it's really helpful if you exclude 1999-2001 when he served his only major post at an FCS school. It's as cool as excluding the quote from Hurley that basically says we don't know WHAT kind of offense we're going to run--you know, because the coach actually has to evaluate the talent available (implying, in so doing, that the guy is able to mold his offense to suit his talent). Aside from that, averaging 3 TDs a game with some of that slop that was on the field for Temple 2002-2004 ain't bad at all.

The guy's no offensive innovator, but he's hardly been a complete flop in his career. To extrapolate his failure as a head coach based on the above is premature, unfounded, and quite simply, unfair. Give the guy a chance.

I agree....the guy took a huge gamble going to Temple to be an OC. But its fair to say he doesn't have experience in running a program as the boss. He will learn and has the support of the AD as his backside is tied to him. The thing I like to hear is that he is good at recruiting. Keeler was an average football coach at best who had too big of an ego and set up his program so that the OC and DC were on a limb by himself. I personally don't think that should be done at this level by young head coaches. They should be involved on at least one side of the ball. Keeler handled himself so that no one would fight for him. Brock seems like he might do the opposite which is a positive and hopefully will foster loyalty from his coaches and players.

[00bluehen]

Great points, JK.

Prior to leaving 4 of his previous jobs, Brock served as recruiting coordinator. Each of those jobs was at a different level of football (FBS--UNC, FCS--Hofstra, and D-III--Salisbury State and [Directional] CT State U, I believe). You've gotta think that gives him connections, credibility, and an eye for evaluation of talent. If that's what a majority of this game is about, his resume's nothing to sniff at in that regard.

The other plus to his extensive resume and travels is that he's had a chance to see a lot of different models of how to be a head coach. Does it mean he's going to be an instant success in the job? Nope. But as I said before, I think folks should stop chalking him up as an instant failure based on the Rutgers 2012 season alone. There are positives to his resume, too.

[BluehenJK]

Great points, JK.

Prior to leaving 4 of his previous jobs, Brock served as recruiting coordinator. Each of those jobs was at a different level of football (FBS--UNC, FCS--Hofstra, and D-III--Salisbury State and [Directional] CT State U, I believe). You've gotta think that gives him connections, credibility, and an eye for evaluation of talent. If that's what a majority of this game is about, his resume's nothing to sniff at in that regard.

The other plus to his extensive resume and travels is that he's had a chance to see a lot of different models of how to be a head coach. Does it mean he's going to be an instant success in the job? Nope. But as I said before, I think folks should stop chalking him up as an instant failure based on the Rutgers 2012 season alone. There are positives to his resume, too.

When it comes to college sports, the better recruiter wins more. John Calipari cant coach even near as good as Fran Dumphy but Calipari gets the blue chips so he wins more. Keeler actually was a good recruiter and that's why he went to 3 National Chship games at Delaware.......

[cougarpines1]

[quoteKeeler was an average football coach at best who had too big of an ego and set up his program so that the OC and DC were on a limb by himself. I][/quote]

And what exactly bearing does KC have on this decision. I an not going to debate KC's positives or negatives. But if you think this guy is the panecea you better review his history because a comparison to KC leaves him very short.

[mlaxlurker]

See, it's really helpful if you exclude 1999-2001 when he served his only major post at an FCS school. It's as cool as excluding the quote from Hurley that basically says we don't know WHAT kind of offense we're going to run--you know, because the coach actually has to evaluate the talent available (implying, in so doing, that the guy is able to mold his offense to suit his talent). Aside from that, averaging 3 TDs a game with some of that slop that was on the field for Temple 2002-2004 ain't bad at all.

The guy's no offensive innovator, but he's hardly been a complete flop in his career. To extrapolate his failure as a head coach based on the above is premature, unfounded, and quite simply, unfair. Give the guy a chance.

Hey if we're going make a hire in 2013 based on the 1-AA bee's knees from 1999-2001, we should have hired Jack Harbaugh, or what about Mark Whipple, or how about Joe Glenn?
There are literally hundreds of coaches out there that can take "slop" and turn it into success. Reference the staffs of Darrell Hazell, Willie Taggart, Mike MacIntyre, Hugh Freeze, Trent Miles, Rob Ash, Gary Anderson, ect.

UD promoted a coach after a decade of mediocrity where his most recent season was literally one of the worst in the country. Every head coach he's worked under since Gardi has been fired for ineptitude (except Flood). I choose to believe the Head Football Coach at the University of Delaware is a position earned, and I believe the fans, students, and alumni deserve a Head Coach who has earned the title based on demonstrated success and acumen in coaching football, not someone who happened to run in the same circle as the AD.

[BluehenJK]

[quoteKeeler was an average football coach at best who had too big of an ego and set up his program so that the OC and DC were on a limb by himself. I]

And what exactly bearing does KC have on this decision. I an not going to debate KC's positives or negatives. But if you think this guy is the panecea you better review his history because a comparison to KC leaves him very short.[/quote]

Can you read? I disagreed with how Keeler set up his program. At 1-AA level of football, a young head coach cant go to CEO mode in his first year. I think he needs to involved in the game plan and in the trenches with the staff. Keeler distanced himself from the players and staff....it was his downfall IMHO. But Keeler could recruit nd that is why he had success.

[Cluck U]

But Keeler could recruit nd that is why he had success.

No way. You have some of the greatest minds on this board that were convinced that KC wss a lousy recruiter...he just didn't get the jimmies and joes.

In fact, KC turned off talent because he was arrogant, bling-bling, so he ended up with a collection of telentless players with low self-esteem. Parents hated when their sons disagreed and decided to go to UD.

You, JK, are completely misinformed.

[Henweigh]

Parents hated when their sons disagreed and decided to go to UD.
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And you base this on what facts? Sounds like fabrication to me. Simply something that was pulled out of someone's arse.