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Re: First Impression

Postby Caribbean Hen on Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:11 am

Observer2 wrote:Exactly. He's here now. If we support UD FB, by definition, we support Brock. I certainly supported KC, no matter what. Well, maybe until the way this past season went.

I never in my wildest thoughts of "_ _ must go", did I actually think it was going to happen.

BTW, I was one of those sceptics about KT's early Brock reports. Kudos to KT for having it right!


KT probably got a tip from "QUD80" aka SB, or at least that's my theory
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Re: First Impression

Postby DEMark on Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:29 am

My first impression is this is a terrible hire by the UD.

In his first year as OC at Rutgers he replaced the previous starting QB, who had success the previous yr, with his guy.

The Rutgers offense ranked 103rd in rushing, 86th in passing, 104 total offense and 96th in total scoring amongst the BCS teams.

103rd in rushing with Jawan Jamison, a possible 2-3 round pick in this year's draft.

The team started 7-0, only to go 2-4 to end the season. In those 6 games the offense scored 23, 28, 10, 6, 17 and 10 points.

Those 6 games were against Kent St, Army, Cincy, Pitt, Louisville and Virginia Tech.

5 of these opponents gave up more points in the previous weeks game before playing Rutgers.

I spoke to a Rutgers player last night and he said although he wished the coach the best, most players were glad to see him go.

Not the kind of hire that excites me for the upcoming seasons.
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Re: First Impression

Postby cougarpines1 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:46 am

[quoteThe team started 7-0, only to go 2-4 to end the season. In those 6 games the offense scored 23, 28, 10, 6, 17 and 10 points.

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Those 7 wins were against bottom feeders like Howard. Didn't hit any real competition till the end of the year and that didn't work out too well
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Re: First Impression

Postby jd of de on Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:05 am

Observer2 wrote:
BTW, I was one of those sceptics about KT's early Brock reports. Kudos to KT for having it right!


Meet too and kudos to KT.

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Re: First Impression

Postby foghorn1 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:18 am

My first impression is not good. It seems to me we hired a nomad journeyman who has done nothing to distinguish himself. I was hoping for Cohen, since his 2003 defense was one our very best, He also has FCS coaching experience and seemed to be turning that Hofstra program around. I hate to be overly critical, but Brock's introductory speech was nothing more than generic rhetoric. I certainly hope his halftime talks are more upbeat, as I caught myself in a half-snooze before he was done.
Having said that, sure I'll support him and hope for the best. I'm a UD man and always will be. IMO, you can't root against the coach and root for the team to win at the same time; it's an oxymoron.
I'm really looking forward to see whom Brock hires, especially at OC. Also, whom he retains. Longtime assistants as Ginn and Perry are needed to maintain some stability. So, while not impressed by the hire........ GO HENS!!! :D
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Re: First Impression

Postby DEMark on Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:19 am

cougarpines1 wrote:[quoteThe team started 7-0, only to go 2-4 to end the season. In those 6 games the offense scored 23, 28, 10, 6, 17 and 10 points.

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Those 7 wins were against bottom feeders like Howard. Didn't hit any real competition till the end of the year and that didn't work out too well[/quote]


Well than those offensive outputs on a nationally average would have been worse than...great we just hired the guy that led his team to the best 115th offense in the country out of 120....

Thats not actually something I think of as CC Factory would sing "things that makes me go Hmmmm"
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Re: First Impression

Postby jd of de on Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:36 am

foghorn1 wrote:
I'm really looking forward to see whom Brock hires, especially at OC. Also, whom he retains. Longtime assistants as Ginn and Perry are needed to maintain some stability. So, while not impressed by the hire........ GO HENS!!! :D


I assume a staff will form quickly since recruits and players alike want to know whom their position coach is. I too have a couple of favorites that I hope are retained, but I also think retaining Jerry O would be the foundation I would like to see Brock build his staff on. The fewer off field issues a new HC has to deal with the better amd Jerry O knows that side and UD well.
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Re: First Impression

Postby foghorn1 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:43 am

jd:
The fewer off field issues a new HC has to deal with the better amd Jerry O knows that side and UD well.
Jerry O. is a gem. I assumed he'd be retained. If not, I'll campaign to oust EZ, whose job, IMO, should've been given to Jerry.
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Re: First Impression

Postby Observer2 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:27 pm

Pretty good list of references for Brock:

What others are saying about Dave Brock

Kyle Flood, Rutgers University football head coach and former Delaware assistant coach: "I am very excited for Dave and Karen. Dave Brock is the perfect fit for the University of Delaware and he will run a football program they will always be proud of. I have two lasting memories from my time in Newark, great people and championship football. I know the people are still great and I know Dave will bring championships back to Delaware."

Jim Turner, Miami Dolphins offensive line coach and former assistant coach at Delaware, Boston College, and Temple: “Dave Brock is a great football coach. Having coached at UD, I know the culture there. He is a great fit. He is blue collar – tough and demanding. He gets the most out of his players. He is a great recruiter. Not only can he evaluate talent, he can attract it. He is a natural leader. Players want to play for him.”

Jordy Nelson
, current NFL Green Bay Packers wide receiver and former All-American player at Kansas State: “In the time that I worked with Dave Brock, I learned a lot off and on the field. He's a family man and a coach who truly cares about his players. Making sure that his players are ready for life after football by getting their degree and becoming men of integrity is a high priority to Coach Brock. Creating schemes and utilizing his players' talents is a strength of his. He is a great offensive mind and played a key role in my development in becoming an NFL prospect. It was a pleasure to play for Coach Brock and I wish him much success as the head coach at the University of Delaware.”

Luke Kuechly, current NFL Carolina Panthers linebacker and candidate for NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year honors, and former All-American at Boston College: “Coach Brock's attitude toward football is what makes him successful. He is a hard working individual, which is a huge part of his success. He's a knowledgeable guy, and more importantly, he knows how to communicate well with his players. Football is a passion for him and will be noticeable very early on. I came in as a freshman (at Boston College) and he pushed me. He knows how far to push players, but at the same time he knows when to calm it down and talk to a player. I think this is what allows him to build relationships with players. I've built a relationship with him in my time at school and still maintain one with him. I'm excited for Coach Brock and the opportunity he has. He's going to make the most of it and I look forward to seeing the positive impact he makes.”

Scott Brunner, former Delaware All-American quarterback and Hall of Fame member and former NFL quarterback: “I think the Delaware football program will be in good hands with the hiring of Dave Brock as its next football coach. Being a New Jersey resident, I had the opportunity to meet Coach Brock when he was the offensive coordinator at Rutgers and was impressed with his knowledge and enthusiasm for the game. In my travels I still get to meet and talk to other professional and college coaches. Those who know Dave Brock believe his ability to motivate and inspire the people around him along with his keen attention to details have prepared him to be head coach. The fact that he does not have prior ties to Delaware is not a concern to me. Nick Saban did not have ties to Alabama yet he has still been able to achieve great success and enhance the football tradition there. I think all the fans, alumni, and students should join in to welcome Coach Brock to the Delaware family and support him in his role as the new leader of Delaware football.”

Pat Devlin, current Miami Dolphins quarterback and former Delaware All-American: "Welcome to Coach Brock. I've heard so many great things about him and I can't wait to watch the new era of Blue Hen football.”
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Re: First Impression

Postby pict on Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:35 pm

I am just really happy about this "transition" to a new coach. I appreciate KC's efforts but the program had become stale at best and Now theer is real reason to be optimistic about a possible return to the successes and outstanding traditions of Delaware football.
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Re: First Impression

Postby hendog on Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:59 pm

I wonder if he will retain some of the assistant coaches or go after former ud coaches and players or if he was told not to hire any former ud people I hope not,I am glad to get rid of the spread offense and go with the 2 back pro set. Hope we make the playoffs this year but with all the change will understand if we don't but year 2 has to show improvement.Willing to give brock the chance to see what he can do.
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Re: First Impression

Postby ChickenMan on Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:58 pm

Brock obviously wasn't a popular choice..but popular doesn't always equate to the best guy. He wouldn't have been my first choice.. but I'm certainly willing to get behind the program and hope for the best.
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Re: First Impression

Postby QUD80 on Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:39 pm

Observer2 wrote:Pretty good list of references for Brock:

What others are saying about Dave Brock

Kyle Flood, Rutgers University football head coach and former Delaware assistant coach: "I am very excited for Dave and Karen. Dave Brock is the perfect fit for the University of Delaware and he will run a football program they will always be proud of. I have two lasting memories from my time in Newark, great people and championship football. I know the people are still great and I know Dave will bring championships back to Delaware."

Jim Turner, Miami Dolphins offensive line coach and former assistant coach at Delaware, Boston College, and Temple: “Dave Brock is a great football coach. Having coached at UD, I know the culture there. He is a great fit. He is blue collar – tough and demanding. He gets the most out of his players. He is a great recruiter. Not only can he evaluate talent, he can attract it. He is a natural leader. Players want to play for him.”

Jordy Nelson
, current NFL Green Bay Packers wide receiver and former All-American player at Kansas State: “In the time that I worked with Dave Brock, I learned a lot off and on the field. He's a family man and a coach who truly cares about his players. Making sure that his players are ready for life after football by getting their degree and becoming men of integrity is a high priority to Coach Brock. Creating schemes and utilizing his players' talents is a strength of his. He is a great offensive mind and played a key role in my development in becoming an NFL prospect. It was a pleasure to play for Coach Brock and I wish him much success as the head coach at the University of Delaware.”

Luke Kuechly, current NFL Carolina Panthers linebacker and candidate for NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year honors, and former All-American at Boston College: “Coach Brock's attitude toward football is what makes him successful. He is a hard working individual, which is a huge part of his success. He's a knowledgeable guy, and more importantly, he knows how to communicate well with his players. Football is a passion for him and will be noticeable very early on. I came in as a freshman (at Boston College) and he pushed me. He knows how far to push players, but at the same time he knows when to calm it down and talk to a player. I think this is what allows him to build relationships with players. I've built a relationship with him in my time at school and still maintain one with him. I'm excited for Coach Brock and the opportunity he has. He's going to make the most of it and I look forward to seeing the positive impact he makes.”

Scott Brunner, former Delaware All-American quarterback and Hall of Fame member and former NFL quarterback: “I think the Delaware football program will be in good hands with the hiring of Dave Brock as its next football coach. Being a New Jersey resident, I had the opportunity to meet Coach Brock when he was the offensive coordinator at Rutgers and was impressed with his knowledge and enthusiasm for the game. In my travels I still get to meet and talk to other professional and college coaches. Those who know Dave Brock believe his ability to motivate and inspire the people around him along with his keen attention to details have prepared him to be head coach. The fact that he does not have prior ties to Delaware is not a concern to me. Nick Saban did not have ties to Alabama yet he has still been able to achieve great success and enhance the football tradition there. I think all the fans, alumni, and students should join in to welcome Coach Brock to the Delaware family and support him in his role as the new leader of Delaware football.”

Pat Devlin, current Miami Dolphins quarterback and former Delaware All-American: "Welcome to Coach Brock. I've heard so many great things about him and I can't wait to watch the new era of Blue Hen football.”


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Re: First Impression

Postby artbuc on Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:06 pm

foghorn1 wrote:My first impression is not good. It seems to me we hired a nomad journeyman who has done nothing to distinguish himself. I was hoping for Cohen, since his 2003 defense was one our very best, He also has FCS coaching experience and seemed to be turning that Hofstra program around. I hate to be overly critical, but Brock's introductory speech was nothing more than generic rhetoric. I certainly hope his halftime talks are more upbeat, as I caught myself in a half-snooze before he was done.
Having said that, sure I'll support him and hope for the best. I'm a UD man and always will be. IMO, you can't root against the coach and root for the team to win at the same time; it's an oxymoron.
I'm really looking forward to see whom Brock hires, especially at OC. Also, whom he retains. Longtime assistants as Ginn and Perry are needed to maintain some stability. So, while not impressed by the hire........ GO HENS!!! :D


If you watch the Rutgers marketing video posted here on another thread, you can see that Brock is NOT the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Re: First Impression

Postby Cluckelhead on Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:45 pm

Observer2 wrote:Pretty good list of references for Brock:

What others are saying about Dave Brock

Kyle Flood, Rutgers University football head coach and former Delaware assistant coach: "I am very excited for Dave and Karen. Dave Brock is the perfect fit for the University of Delaware and he will run a football program they will always be proud of. I have two lasting memories from my time in Newark, great people and championship football. I know the people are still great and I know Dave will bring championships back to Delaware."

Jim Turner, Miami Dolphins offensive line coach and former assistant coach at Delaware, Boston College, and Temple: “Dave Brock is a great football coach. Having coached at UD, I know the culture there. He is a great fit. He is blue collar – tough and demanding. He gets the most out of his players. He is a great recruiter. Not only can he evaluate talent, he can attract it. He is a natural leader. Players want to play for him.”


Jordy Nelson
, current NFL Green Bay Packers wide receiver and former All-American player at Kansas State: “In the time that I worked with Dave Brock, I learned a lot off and on the field. He's a family man and a coach who truly cares about his players. Making sure that his players are ready for life after football by getting their degree and becoming men of integrity is a high priority to Coach Brock. Creating schemes and utilizing his players' talents is a strength of his. He is a great offensive mind and played a key role in my development in becoming an NFL prospect. It was a pleasure to play for Coach Brock and I wish him much success as the head coach at the University of Delaware.”

Luke Kuechly, current NFL Carolina Panthers linebacker and candidate for NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year honors, and former All-American at Boston College: “Coach Brock's attitude toward football is what makes him successful. He is a hard working individual, which is a huge part of his success. He's a knowledgeable guy, and more importantly, he knows how to communicate well with his players. Football is a passion for him and will be noticeable very early on. I came in as a freshman (at Boston College) and he pushed me. He knows how far to push players, but at the same time he knows when to calm it down and talk to a player. I think this is what allows him to build relationships with players. I've built a relationship with him in my time at school and still maintain one with him. I'm excited for Coach Brock and the opportunity he has. He's going to make the most of it and I look forward to seeing the positive impact he makes.”

Scott Brunner, former Delaware All-American quarterback and Hall of Fame member and former NFL quarterback: “I think the Delaware football program will be in good hands with the hiring of Dave Brock as its next football coach. Being a New Jersey resident, I had the opportunity to meet Coach Brock when he was the offensive coordinator at Rutgers and was impressed with his knowledge and enthusiasm for the game. In my travels I still get to meet and talk to other professional and college coaches. Those who know Dave Brock believe his ability to motivate and inspire the people around him along with his keen attention to details have prepared him to be head coach. The fact that he does not have prior ties to Delaware is not a concern to me. Nick Saban did not have ties to Alabama yet he has still been able to achieve great success and enhance the football tradition there. I think all the fans, alumni, and students should join in to welcome Coach Brock to the Delaware family and support him in his role as the new leader of Delaware football.”

Pat Devlin, current Miami Dolphins quarterback and former Delaware All-American: "Welcome to Coach Brock. I've heard so many great things about him and I can't wait to watch the new era of Blue Hen football.”



Pretty impressive support from two former Hen stars, two former successful Hen coaches and and two NFL stars. I was impressed with the genuiness of his presentation yesterday and even though he was obviously nervous, he survived. I hope some of the nay sayers on this board will at least give the guy a chance and take a wait and see attitude.

That said, I also hope we have seen the end of the chuck and duck offense, the rope a dope defense and the continuing recruitmnet of high schollies and transfers that can never seem to remain healthy enough to help out. I hope the coach will bring excitement back to the TUB with real smashmouth football. And most of all, start beating NOVA at the very least at home!
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