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The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby Fightin' Blue Schnauzers on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:32 am

If he does a great job, he is off to the bigger time. For a Delaware connected coach, this is the dream job. If Brock is hired, he won't be here long because he will either do a great job and be looking for something else, or he will be a bad HC and will be gone. The same wold be true of Garrett. But we might as well accept that it will be Brock because our new AD will not want a UD man.
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Re: The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby Henroid on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:38 am

Fightin' Blue Schnauzers wrote:If he does a great job, he is off to the bigger time. For a Delaware connected coach, this is the dream job. If Brock is hired, he won't be here long because he will either do a great job and be looking for something else, or he will be a bad HC and will be gone. The same wold be true of Garrett. But we might as well accept that it will be Brock because our new AD will not want a UD man.


The days of a guy spending years in the same job due to personal allegiance are long gone. Even Tubby said that had coaches been making what they are making today, he might have considered a move. The average person moves 3X in their life & changes jobs something like 5X. We might as well accept that UD is going to be a stepping stone, especially if we remain in the FCS. Expecting someone to stay put is totally unrealistic today.
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Re: The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby bluehenbillk on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:38 am

Personally I could care less if the new HC has a Delaware background or not.

More important to me is:

-What the new HC's background is.
-Who the new HC is going to hire as his staff here
-What changes the new HC is going to make to the way we've played the past year or two, which obviously wasn't good enough

I really really really hope the new guy they bring in is successful.
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Re: The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby TexasHen on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:38 am

I'm starting to think it isn't going to be any of the names we've been discussing.
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Re: The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby Baltimore Hen on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:39 am

Fightin' Blue Schnauzers wrote:If he does a great job, he is off to the bigger time. For a Delaware connected coach, this is the dream job. If Brock is hired, he won't be here long because he will either do a great job and be looking for something else, or he will be a bad HC and will be gone. The same wold be true of Garrett. But we might as well accept that it will be Brock because our new AD will not want a UD man.



Absolutely right. Also consider this. how much of a leash do the fans give a non-UD guy. My guess is not long and the boo birds will be out quickly, much like RichRod in Ann Arbor. I do not understand how the Rutgers OC/TE coach could possibly be the best candidate they interviewed. I wonder how much of a connection Tubby would maintain with the program after this? Will he still do Senior portraits, etc? My guess is you would be hard pressed to see him on a fall saturday afternoon. Why would you want to alienate the man who was a major player in building the Blue Hen football history?
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Re: The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby foghorn1 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:42 am

Henroid wrote:
Fightin' Blue Schnauzers wrote:If he does a great job, he is off to the bigger time. For a Delaware connected coach, this is the dream job. If Brock is hired, he won't be here long because he will either do a great job and be looking for something else, or he will be a bad HC and will be gone. The same wold be true of Garrett. But we might as well accept that it will be Brock because our new AD will not want a UD man.


The days of a guy spending years in the same job due to personal allegiance are long gone. Even Tubby said that had coaches been making what they are making today, he might have considered a move. The average person moves 3X in their life & changes jobs something like 5X. We might as well accept that UD is going to be a stepping stone, especially if we remain in the FCS. Expecting someone to stay put is totally unrealistic today.

You're 100% correct.
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Re: The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby dovetail on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:46 am

In today's job market "forever" means 3-5 years.
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Re: The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby Baltimore Hen on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:48 am

Henroid wrote:
Fightin' Blue Schnauzers wrote:If he does a great job, he is off to the bigger time. For a Delaware connected coach, this is the dream job. If Brock is hired, he won't be here long because he will either do a great job and be looking for something else, or he will be a bad HC and will be gone. The same wold be true of Garrett. But we might as well accept that it will be Brock because our new AD will not want a UD man.


The days of a guy spending years in the same job due to personal allegiance are long gone. Even Tubby said that had coaches been making what they are making today, he might have considered a move. The average person moves 3X in their life & changes jobs something like 5X. We might as well accept that UD is going to be a stepping stone, especially if we remain in the FCS. Expecting someone to stay put is totally unrealistic today.



Yes, but if you tabbed a guy like Venuto, that may not be the case. Unless you are Steve Spurrier or Nick Saban etc, the demand for a new HC in their Upper 50's is not that great. But anyway, My stomach is turning at the thought of Brock. It almost feels like the unexciting day UMD named Randy Edsall HC instead of Mike Leach. And then you have seen what happened on the field after that uninspiring hire.
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Re: The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby Sally in RI on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:53 am

Actually, every program is now a stepping stone. The top tier programs are raided by the pros. And the grass is always greener....
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Re: The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby jd of de on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:55 am

TexasHen wrote:I'm starting to think it isn't going to be any of the names we've been discussing.


That's been my thought all along. KT didn't tweet EZs name until the night before the announcement. UD keep the lid on that hire; expecting same with this hire.
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Re: The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby Observer2 on Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:56 am

"If he does a great job, he is off to the bigger time."

If that happens, good for him, and good for us!

If he does a great job, then we will have had great success, and will be seen as a good destination for the next hire. The "flat earthers" need to look beyond the near term horizon.
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Re: The problem with a non-Delaware HC is...

Postby Henroid on Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:10 pm

Sally in RI wrote:Actually, every program is now a stepping stone. The top tier programs are raided by the pros. And the grass is always greener....


Good point! In fact, I just read that of the 6 NFL HC'ing positions that were just filled, only Andy Reid has NFL experience.
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