Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby jd of de on Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:02 am

All the the facts you list do nothing to support your theory that the firing was personal.

Consider the last 5 seasons .... 12-3 can't erase 4-8, 6-5, 7-4 & 5-6

End of story and time to move on
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby Scott on Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:14 am

If the year skipped had been 2003 rather than 2012 you get a much different story.
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby hens05alum on Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:34 am

Seems to me that the only people who haven't treated the dismissal like business are a few heartbroken fans. KCK as been nothing but professional and COMPENSATED for the transaction. Ziady is handling it professionally and not disclosing any embarrassing details of why KC was dismissed that could impact future employment. Rich Gannon and Mike Adams are apparently prepared to recommend replacements. Flacco has ordered Domino's a couple times and picked up a copy of Call of Duty for his XBox.

The fact still remains that the next hire needs to be an absolute and complete slam dunk, and he needs to be ready to sell and impress on day 1. That's also business, and it needs to be as usual.
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby IRISHMAFIA on Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:50 am

Bandwagon wrote:
Oh, I’ve been here all along, just never felt it necessary to have to post – thought most normal people understood what a good coach Keeler is and the negativity was just that of small, self-agenda, misinformed people with an ax to swing.


Okay, everyone who believes any part of this sentence should show up at the Carpenter's Club tomorrow @ 10am for the introduction of the new coach.
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby UD77 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:48 am

IRISHMAFIA wrote:
Bandwagon wrote:
Oh, I’ve been here all along, just never felt it necessary to have to post – thought most normal people understood what a good coach Keeler is and the negativity was just that of small, self-agenda, misinformed people with an ax to swing.


Okay, everyone who believes any part of this sentence should show up at the Carpenter's Club tomorrow @ 10am for the introduction of the new coach.


Are you saying that a new coach has been found? If not I don't understand your comment in the least.
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby Oldhen on Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:52 am

UD77 wrote:
IRISHMAFIA wrote:
Bandwagon wrote:
Oh, I’ve been here all along, just never felt it necessary to have to post – thought most normal people understood what a good coach Keeler is and the negativity was just that of small, self-agenda, misinformed people with an ax to swing.


Okay, everyone who believes any part of this sentence should show up at the Carpenter's Club tomorrow @ 10am for the introduction of the new coach.


Are you saying that a new coach has been found? If not I don't understand your comment in the least.


The equivalent of saying 'if you believe this, I have some property I want to sell you...'
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby UD77 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:08 am

The equivalent of saying 'if you believe this, I have some property I want to sell you...'[/quote]

Ahh, I am slow on the up take. Sarcasm is difficult on the internet.
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby Sally in RI on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:28 am

According to the posting of the job....what was the last day to apply? Hoping for an announcement soon after!

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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby Firstand10BlueHens on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:40 am

The job posting expires today and I noticed last week it mentioned the 16th as the final date, so I would expect an announcement soon. Unless all the leaks have been way off, I guess we should expect one of the candidates we've heard about. Let's all get behind whomever it is and hopefully get back to some winning Delaware football!
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby UD27 on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:12 am

Bandwagon wrote:It doesn’t matter if you liked K.C. Keeler or not, it’s obvious that the firing was PERSONAL.


If you want to take an honest look at KC's record, you need to takeoff those rose colored glasses. To KC's credit he had three excellent years at UD and one other very good one however, he had far too many very unlike UD years during his tenure. Prior to KC's arrival Delaware had just 5 seasons with 6 or more loses in their previous 63 seasons, however KC added 4 more 6 loss seasons during his 11 years. Also there were 2 other seasons with 5 loses among those 11 years. Despite the three outstanding years, that rate of failure (over .50%) and inconsistency was unacceptable to many Hen fans and apparently the UD administration.
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby Henzone on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:36 am

This whole thing reminds me of the election in November. Since it's been over the two sides have spent the last 60 days regurigitating their positions they've held for the last year. KC is gone. Does it really matter why at this point in time? A new page in UD football will be opened in the next week or so. . Wouldn't it be great if everyone was on it?
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby Bandwagon on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:43 am

Henway wrote:Amazing how you didn't include 2012 to try and make your argument for #6. UNH had the same total wins overall so even trying to make your weak argument ( why would you include every year but this year makes no sense, but that is what desperate people do to try and win discussions).... you are incorrect and in conference leaving out this year, once again UNH and JMU still have better records. Very weak.

2002 through 2012.
UD 86-52 Conference 49-41

JMU 87-47 Conference 57-33

UNH 89-48 Conference 56-34.

Your tilting to try and make your version better scenario ( skipping 2012)

UD 81-46 Conference 47-35

JMU 80-43 Conference 52-30

UNH 81-44 Conference 50-32

:lol:


My point by leaving out 2012 is, from 2002 to 2011, Delaware had the best program in the CAA. Most wins (81) which was tied with NH. Most playoff wins (11)…no one else is close to that number. Most Conference Championships (3)…tied with UMass and Richmond. Only team to play for multi National Championships (3). So in 2012 we have an injury-riddled year, you’re going to fire the guy? He is statistically the best HC in the league. Those are the facts.

I'm sure if Sean McDonelll was here we would have fired him because he can't win a playoff game.

Face it; this was a personal agenda by the "Powers" at UD.
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby Tailgating Hen on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:52 am

Bandwagon wrote:It doesn’t matter if you liked K.C. Keeler or not, it’s obvious that the firing was PERSONAL.

You don’t fire a coach who’s:
1. Team has the most wins in the conference the last 3years
2. Team is the last CAA team to play for a National Championship
3. Team has won 11 playoff games in 11years. No school in the CAA has ever won that many playoff games in their history EVER. (in fact, KC’s 11 in 11 is almost twice as good as Tubby’s 11 in 21 years)
4. Taken his teams to 3 National Championship appearances in 11 years. (Tubby’s teams played for 1 in 21 years of 1AA and that was in 1983)
5. The only CAA coach to play for multiple FCS (1AA) National Championships.
6. Teams from 2002 to 2011 had the most wins of any CAA team, most conference championships, most National Championship appearances, and most playoff wins of all CAA teams.
7. Had the highest winning % of any coach in the CAA that has been at their institution for more then 3 years.
8. Had the highest winning % of any coach at UD.
9. 2 years removed from winning the National Coach of the Year and Liberty Mutual Coach of the Year!
10. Players represent UD well in the community. 2010 Sidequee Haynes won a National community service award.
11. Tremendously involved in the community as evidenced by the service projects that he and his wife are committed to.
12. A proud alum!
13. Team has a strong academic APR.
14. Helped to set record season ticket sales and attendance records - until UD instituted its ridiculous ticket and parking policies.
15. Shown by his recent handling of his firing - is a class act!


If you think we fired him because the AD, that has been on the job 30 days, didn’t like the direction the program is going I have some swampland in Smyrna to sell you. Keeler pissed someone off up campus and got wacked. Z-daddy may have pulled the trigger but our illustrious President called for the hit. He is the only one with enough power to pull a scumbag move like this. Firing a Football coach and his staff in January is not just stupid but also immoral. I, for one, am not proud to be a BLUE HEN with these bad people running UD!

By the way, to whom does The President have to answer to?????
If the answer is no one - then I guess Mel Brooks had it right with his movie line “it’s good to be the king”.


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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby HenZoneNation on Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:58 am

This decision will know if this decision was a good one or not in the next three years. If we find some consistency and develop the players we have then it was a good move. If we don't, then it was a poor one.

One thing we have to stop stating is that KC got paid, he shouldn't be mad. UD didn't give KC anything. That was money owed to him. They didn't give it to him out of the goodness of their heart.
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Re: Keeler’s Firing was Personal NOT Business

Postby jd of de on Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:01 am

It is not about one year, it's about his body of work the last 5 years. In coaching years 2002 - 2007 might as well be considered the last century. And at some places like Auburn only the last only the last two years count.

CAA = 19-21
2012=2-6
2011=5-3
2010=6-2
2009=4-4
2008=2-6
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